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    Things you didn't know about "categories"

    Hi there,

    I've often heard people discuss what "categories" really are. You know, the term used to describe climbs in races such as Tour de France.

    Well, I decided to find out about the "system" behind the categorization. You can take a look at the results here: http://www.danskebjerge.dk/article-categories.htm

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    P.S.: Sorry, no international edition of the entire website as yet.

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    Here's some data I compiled...

    http://diabloscott.blogspot.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiabloScott View Post
    Here's some data I compiled...

    No Mont Ventoux in there...?
    Last edited by xfimpg; 07-04-09 at 07:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danskebjerge View Post
    Hi there,

    I've often heard people discuss what "categories" really are. You know, the term used to describe climbs in races such as Tour de France.

    Well, I decided to find out about the "system" behind the categorization. You can take a look at the results here: http://www.danskebjerge.dk/article-categories.htm

    /Jacob
    Editor, Danskebjerge.dk

    P.S.: Sorry, no international edition of the entire website as yet.
    Danske bjerge? Heh.

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    Just bringing this thread back up. It has some cool info and some new comers might find it usefull

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    Where's Haleakala?

    p.s. - given the gradient, Hamilton would be a long Cat 2 climb, or possibly gain Cat 1 status. I doubt it would actually be graded as HC.
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    I had the impression that the climb's location in the stage (early on, towards the end after additional climbs, etc) also influenced the category. Is this not true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by haimtoeg View Post
    I had the impression that the climb's location in the stage (early on, towards the end after additional climbs, etc) also influenced the category. Is this not true?
    Absolutely not.
    The categories are the rating of how difficult the climb is. You can have a stage with Cat 1 out the gate, followed by a Cat 4, and back to a Cat 1 again. Nothing to do with the order in which they are in the stage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howzit View Post
    Absolutely not.
    The categories are the rating of how difficult the climb is. You can have a stage with Cat 1 out the gate, followed by a Cat 4, and back to a Cat 1 again. Nothing to do with the order in which they are in the stage
    What I have always heard is there is no system but that later climbs often get bigger numbers then a similar climb at the beginning of the stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howzit View Post
    Absolutely not.
    The categories are the rating of how difficult the climb is. You can have a stage with Cat 1 out the gate, followed by a Cat 4, and back to a Cat 1 again. Nothing to do with the order in which they are in the stage
    Here's someone that disagrees with you: http://draco.acs.uci.edu/rbfaq/FAQ/5.3.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howzit View Post
    Absolutely not.
    The categories are the rating of how difficult the climb is. You can have a stage with Cat 1 out the gate, followed by a Cat 4, and back to a Cat 1 again. Nothing to do with the order in which they are in the stage

    I wouldn't say "absolutely not" True you can have a Cat 1 at the beginning of a stage and a 4 at the end.

    However, whether a climb is considered an Cat 1, or an HC climb can be influenced by where it is on a stage. A climb that in the middle of a stage might get labeled a 1, may well be labeled HC if its a mountain top finish, particularly if there are no other HC climbs on the stage.

    Just look at Friday's profile. The last climb at 10k average 7% is a bit light as HC climbs go, but its labeled HC for friday's race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haimtoeg View Post
    Here's someone that disagrees with you: http://draco.acs.uci.edu/rbfaq/FAQ/5.3.html
    Another dissenting voice.

    http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/articl...uestions-17218
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