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    "My legs cannot betray me even once" Ouch!! Alberto on Reuters

    This saga is making the Tour more exciting and intriguing for sure!
    Alberto sure felt being betrayed.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/sport...56B1Z120090712

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    What a whiner....I love reading about his "win" over the chicken. The dude couldn't beat the chicken...it took the chickens team to win it for him.

    Alberto.....here's a clue...just STFU and ride....if you are the strongest then it won't matter.
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    He's not mother Teresa. He's a friggin cyclist for crying out loud. Why is this so hard to understand for so many people?

    Think of it like the WWE but on bikes; it's just a big show with real-live suffering and soul crushing.

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    Important point: Contador is referring to (his rivals). The author implies this to be an anti-lance statement, but it seems very general.

    You're telling ALBERTO to STFU and ride!? Lance fanboy maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmb2786 View Post
    Important point: Contador is referring to (his rivals). The author implies this to be an anti-lance statement, but it seems very general.

    You're telling ALBERTO to STFU and ride!? Lance fanboy maybe?

    Ummm yes..and I was a Lemond fanboy before that and a Merckx fanboy back when I was a kid...something wrong with that
    Quote Originally Posted by kimconyc View Post
    He's not mother Teresa. He's a friggin cyclist for crying out loud. Why is this so hard to understand for so many people?

    Think of it like the WWE but on bikes; it's just a big show with real-live suffering and soul crushing.

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    My legs betray me all the time.
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    I have no problem with what AC had to say...it all seems right on the money to me

    Every time Johan opens his mouth he just proves more and more to me that he is Lance's boy servant...

    IMO, AC has proven himself as worthy as anyone on that team(or should I say more than worthy), and ever since the "second coming" he has been treated like a domestique

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    If Lance had attacked in the mountains like AC did....Bob Roll would have extolled the brilliance and tenacity of the Texan...and then asked to make out with him

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    Quote Originally Posted by UGASkiDawg View Post
    Ummm yes..and I was a Lemond fanboy before that and a Merckx fanboy back when I was a kid...something wrong with that
    no, I just think that Alberto's statements are blown out of proportion. Lance's statement in that article seemed much more controversial than any of alberto's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rankin116 View Post
    just skip the thread if it bothers you that much....some of us only visit one forum and you're reading it now....if a mod wants to move it, so be it....this thread wasn't a spoiler and may be misplaced but it's better than another BD thread IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grinderbob View Post
    This saga is making the Tour more exciting and intriguing for sure!
    Alberto sure felt being betrayed.
    Where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharmr View Post
    If Lance had attacked in the mountains like AC did....Bob Roll would have extolled the brilliance and tenacity of the Texan...and then asked to make out with him
    lol...I can picture Bob saying this with all of his hand gestures....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharmr View Post
    just skip the thread if it bothers you that much....some of us only visit one forum and you're reading it now....if a mod wants to move it, so be it....this thread wasn't a spoiler and may be misplaced but it's better than another BD thread IMO.
    I do the same thing, can't visit them all. But I found I was missing out... the following post =

    Quote Originally Posted by Howzit View Post
    Lets just say it was Lance who attacked yesterday.
    Heres what the commentary would be:

    Phil Leggett: "And there goes Lance!! We are seeing an amazing attack here by Lance Armstrong of Astana! This man is back; and he is back with even more razor sharp focus and sheer will than ever before. Look at this Paul, well, all the critics said he was washed up, all the critics said he didnt have the form we have seen before in past years, but look at him now!
    Paul Sherwen: "This is why this is the best bike race in the world Phil. Yes there has been team rivalry, the media has tried to cause a rift for these men of Team Astana, but today, we are seeing that they are together, we are seeing they are working to break ALL other rivals from other teams. See Phil, this is why Armstrong is such an amazing rider, he saw the opportunity, he saw the chance, and now he is showing all these younger men how its done. When you see a chance to gain a few second, you take it Phil! This is a 3 week race, and you never know how things can shape up, so every single second you gain on these roads is so critical."
    Phil Leggett:Paul, the speed with which he took off here today, his rivals must be thinking, just how do we stop this man!
    Paul Sherwen: They would have had long conversations in the Team bus this morning, they would have studied this route, Lance would have come out here in the winter months to look at how this mountain went, Lance knew the finish was difficult, Lance knew he would have a chance to snatch a few seconds, and now we are being treated to one of the most amazing attacks we have ever seen."
    Phil Leggett: We are looking at the legs of Lance Armstrong here folks, 4 years in retirement, and now he comes back to make it look so easy..... Just where do the talents of this man end?? He saw his rivals in difficulty, he knew exactly how they were feeling, he knew each and every corner that was left to the finish, and he said you know what, I see a gap, I see a chance, Im going! And this is why Lance is the leader, this is why Lance commands respect, this is why he is going to walk away with this year's Tour De France. We are seeing this man lay down the foundations of what could be the greatest our win on top of the seven he has already won. Contador is giving away precious time here Paul, Lance was alert, he read the moves, he stayed in the perfect position and has put everyone in difficulty. Poor Contador really has to try and figure out how he is going to preserve time here if he wants to wear the yellow jersey for Astana. Just the other day, we saw the field split up in the cross winds, Lance was up there, and today, he is showing us once again, how his superior experience is putting him over the younger Contador."
    Paul Sherwen: Phil, Cadel watsed a lot of energy with those unsuccessful attacks, now is the time Contador should have gone with Lance. Now is the time Contador should counter attack and bridge up to Lance. But Contador wasnt paying attention, Contador is not as astute as lance, and now we are watching Lance gain precious time over everyone.


    This is exactly how the commentary would have gone.

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    If Contador has a bad day, everyone will be on his @$$. Geez...you'd think he'd know that. If he can't make it, fact is they (Astana) have other riders that might be able to win. That's somewhat unique. Puts more pressure on him, for sure, but if he's good enough it won't matter.

    He sounds like Sastre used to...

    Some of you seem to be missing something...Bruyneel wants to win. If it's Contador, then that's what will happen. If he can't go and Lance can, then that's what happens. But he's not going to give up a win to favor one rider over another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharmr View Post
    just skip the thread if it bothers you that much....some of us only visit one forum and you're reading it now....if a mod wants to move it, so be it....this thread wasn't a spoiler and may be misplaced but it's better than another BD thread IMO.
    So what you're saying is that you knew what the mods' policy was on this and you would decide to post it here anyway? Hmm... thanks for that.

    This is going to pro cycling. If you want to talk tour, there's a whole big forum for it. Please pay attention to the guidelines. Thanks.
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    What, if anything, is wrong with the comments that Contador made? It's true. If anything, it could be argued that Armstrong is the real whiner after Contador attacked in the final km of the stage in which he gained time on the leaders. Contador didn't complain that Armstrong took advantage of an opporunity to put time into Contador on the flats, yet it is ok for Armstrong to complain? In that case, then it would be Armstrong as the big whiner, not Contador.
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    Great one Howzit. That's just about perfect. I actually read the words and heard the voices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roadwarrior View Post
    Some of you seem to be missing something...Bruyneel wants Lance to win. If it's Contador, then that's what will happen. If he can't go and Lance can, then that's what happens. But he's not going to give up a win to favor one rider over another.

    fixed....as least that's how I see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgjane View Post
    My legs betray me all the time.
    My mouth tends to betray me all the time.

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    Contador better look after himself & take ALL the time he can on these mountain stages. Armstrong with this, "We are all professionals" & " The team first" talk is all a load of b.s. Armstrong hopes to take time in the TT over Contador & scream foul play if Contador attacks in the mountains. Contador is a climber, climbers have no choice but attack in the mountains. Armstrong is such a user....1985 tour in replay. Keep your friends close & your enemies closer.

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    I think Johan would love to see Lance win but he is going to make sure he (JB) wins first and that means following tactics and whoever turns out strongest in the Alps will be give then support. Right now AC looks to be the stronger rider he out TT'd Lance and may do so again. He clearly was climbing well on Friday but with the team tactics not to attack we don't know if LA was following instructions or didn't have the legs to go with him.

    If it is close in the Alps then I expect that they will be set free on Mont Ventoux and the strongest rider will win the race. Unless something strange happens stage 20 will be the decider in the race.
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    Pobrecito...AC had to ride in the back of the plane?

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