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Old 07-24-09, 08:03 AM   #1
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Cadel Evans to Radio Shack

Bonnie Ford just reported on Velonews live chat that there are Cadel to TRS rumors. Maybe I started this rumor because I posted this two days ago on this forum. It was just a hunch based on Cadel's abrasive personality fitting with Lance's, and who else can compete with AC...
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Bonnie Ford just reported on Velonews live chat that there are Cadel to TRS rumors. Maybe I started this rumor because I posted this two days ago on this forum. It was just a hunch based on Cadel's abrasive personality fitting with Lance's, and who else can compete with AC...
Well, certainly not Cadel. I don't care how strong the team is. Cadel won't beat Contador.
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Well, certainly not Cadel. I don't care how strong the team is. Cadel won't beat Contador.
I wouldn't base your opinion of his riding capabilities on this Tour alone. Last year he almost won with the worst team in the Peloton and a horrible, horrible injury. With Johan, and a solid team supporting him...Lance, Levi, etc., he can beat AC.
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I wouldn't base your opinion of his riding capabilities on this Tour alone. Last year he almost won with the worst team in the Peloton and a horrible, horrible injury. With Johan, and a solid team supporting him...Lance, Levi, etc., he can beat AC.
Levi, Lance, Cadel, and Kloden can't beat Contador. Sure is it in the realm of possibility? Yeah, but unlikely. None of them can climb or TT with Contador at this stage of their careers. They can only make up so much time in a Team TT. Then they have to go up mountains and individual TT.

Cadel and Levi have never shown that he could hang with the top climbers when they attack. They're very good, but not in that special class. That's why they've been podium finishers but never the top dog.
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha he he he he he he ha ha ha ha

That's funny right there.

I guess if they are allowed to tie off to each other. We can call them the over the hill bunch.

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I wouldn't base your opinion of his riding capabilities on this Tour alone. Last year he almost won with the worst team in the Peloton and a horrible, horrible injury. With Johan, and a solid team supporting him...Lance, Levi, etc., he can beat AC.
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Why on earth will Evans join a team with an established GC leader? He needs to be leader of his own, despite his terrible lack of leadership qualities.

The man managed to piss off his whole team!
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Seriously I hope this is a joke. Surely Lance isn't dumb enough to take on Cadel.

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha he he he he he he ha ha ha ha

That's funny right there.

I guess if they are allowed to tie off to each other. We can call them the over the hill bunch.

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I was trying to be a little more diplomatic with my responses. But I agree...
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Levi, Lance, Cadel, and Kloden can't beat Contador. Sure is it in the realm of possibility? Yeah, but unlikely. None of them can climb or TT with Contador at this stage of their careers. They can only make up so much time in a Team TT. Then they have to go up mountains and individual TT.

Cadel and Levi have never shown that he could hang with the top climbers when they attack. They're very good, but not in that special class. That's why they've been podium finishers but never the top dog.
In any case, if it happens I think it will make things interesting next year. Evans still has to be considered one the top riders in the world. I assume Saxo Bank won't change very much so the Schlecks will be back. A lot of riders will opt for the ToC rather than the Giro which in theory will conserve them and make training for the Tour more manageable, so perhaps Levi and Sastre will be stronger. Nibali, Kriezinger, Valverde...who else has a chance, not sure. After this year's performance, I think it is entirely possible that AC wins several more Tours and challenges Lance's record. It is hard to say what will happen, but the possibility of Evans riding the Tour with support and Johan is intriguing to say the least.
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Doubt it. Cadel wants to ride for himself, not Lance.
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I wouldn't base your opinion of his riding capabilities on this Tour alone. Last year he almost won with the worst team in the Peloton and a horrible, horrible injury. With Johan, and a solid team supporting him...Lance, Levi, etc., he can beat AC.
+1. In addition, look at Contador's performance before he rode for Bruyneel. Did you even know of him? Look at Levi's performance before riding for Bruyneel.
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JB is not a miracle worker. Evans proved he was as strong as Lance in this tour, but look at the time gaps. Cadel is weak mentally always looking for someone to blame.

Levi did fine for himself in 05 with no team support.

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+1. In addition, look at Contador's performance before he rode for Bruyneel. Did you even know of him? Look at Levi's performance before riding for Bruyneel.
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Radio Shack needs someone gunning for Paris-Nice.
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JB is not a miracle worker. Evans proved he was as strong as Lance in this tour, but look at the time gaps. Cadel is weak mentally always looking for someone to blame.

Levi did fine for himself in 05 with no team support.

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I didn't bring religion into it & I don't believe in miracles.

Final General classification (05 TDF)

1 Lance Armstrong (USA) Discovery Channel 86.15.02 (41.654 km/h)
2 Ivan Basso (Ita) Team CSC 4.40
3 Jan Ullrich (Ger) T-Mobile Team 6.21
4 Francisco Mancebo (Spa) Illes Balears-Caisse d'Epargne 9.59
5 Alexandre Vinokourov (Kaz) T-Mobile Team 11.01
6 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Gerolsteiner 11.21

Final General Classification (07 TDF)

1 Alberto Contador Velasco (Spa) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 91.00.26
2 Cadel Evans (Aus) Predictor - Lotto 0.23
3 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.31

Final General classification (08 Vuelta)

1 Alberto Contador Velasco (Spa) Astana 80.40.08
2 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Astana 0.46
3 Carlos Sastre Candil (Spa) Team CSC - Saxo Bank 4.12
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+1. In addition, look at Contador's performance before he rode for Bruyneel. Did you even know of him? Look at Levi's performance before riding for Bruyneel.
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JB is not a miracle worker. Evans proved he was as strong as Lance in this tour, but look at the time gaps. Cadel is weak mentally always looking for someone to blame.

Levi did fine for himself in 05 with no team support.

Richard
If my team sucked as bad as his I would be pissed as well, and I think there is blame to go around at Silence. They lost his biggest helper and the biggest signee of the off season got busted for doping. The guy has no help and his career is slipping away from him...again, I would be frustrated too. But, maybe you all are sleeping with him because you sure seem to know him pretty well. Cadel lost to AC by 23 seconds in '07, again, with no help whatsoever. Really I don't care about Evans, whatever. However, being a dog lover I enjoyed ""Stand on my dog and I'll cut your head off".

I don't think anybody called Johan a miracle worker, but his accomplishments cannot be chalked up to rider ability. Nine tour wins as DS...Lance and AC weren't entirely unknowns when he found them, but pretty close.
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AC was practically a teenager when Bruyneel found him.
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Bonnie Ford just reported on Velonews live chat that there are Cadel to TRS rumors. Maybe I started this rumor because I posted this two days ago on this forum. It was just a hunch based on Cadel's abrasive personality fitting with Lance's, and who else can compete with AC...
not cordell. that's for sure. i'd love to see evans and lance on the same team .

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Levi, Lance, Cadel, and Kloden can't beat Contador. Sure is it in the realm of possibility? Yeah, but unlikely. None of them can climb or TT with Contador at this stage of their careers. They can only make up so much time in a Team TT. Then they have to go up mountains and individual TT.

Cadel and Levi have never shown that he could hang with the top climbers when they attack. They're very good, but not in that special class. That's why they've been podium finishers but never the top dog.
levi will be 36 next year. here comes that age thing again! lance will be nearly 39 and kloden is getting up there but isn't a team leader....he's a follower. they need a GC guy. cordell is probably a good bet tho i don't think he will ever win the tour.

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Seriously I hope this is a joke. Surely Lance isn't dumb enough to take on Cadel.

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what are the other choices...they do need a GC guy.

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AC was practically a teenager when Bruyneel found him.
A teenager that nobody would hire because he was linked to OP. I think Bruyneel brought him on mid-season.

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Well surely Levi and Kloden will come?
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A teenager that nobody would hire because he was linked to OP. I think Bruyneel brought him on mid-season.


Well surely Levi and Kloden will come?
levi will be 36. the last time a 36-year old won the tour was what, 1919? kloden is a domestique. they need a GC guy and i don't think lance will want the job after this year.

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I wouldn't base your opinion of his riding capabilities on this Tour alone. Last year he almost won with the worst team in the Peloton and a horrible, horrible injury. With Johan, and a solid team supporting him...Lance, Levi, etc., he can beat AC.
Not so sure about. Last year was a pretty weak field. Look at the current top six in this year's tour. Four of them did not ride last year, and the two that did were riding in support of Sastre. Last year's podium was Sastre (17 minutes back), Evans (40 minutes back ) and Kohl (well, you know).

I don't have any problem with Evans like some people seem to, but I think he has sign the top end of his career come and go. Contador, the Schlecks, even Nibali are the next generation.
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Cadel's a woossy whiner
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anyone with that much talent on the open market is gonna have warts .

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