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    Stage 13 Lannemezan - Plateau de Beille

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    The stage that will decide the TDF. 80K of climbing!!!
    i may have overreacted

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    Where will Voeckler crack? The first cat 1? The second cat 1? Or will he survive until the last HC? I don't know if he'll be able to hold onto yellow after this one...

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    He may not hold onto yellow, but he isn't gonna crack the way that
    everyone expects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rygreen
    Where will Voeckler crack? The first cat 1? The second cat 1? Or will he survive until the last HC? I don't know if he'll be able to hold onto yellow after this one...
    I think most of the race will be together over the first Cat. 1. It will start to break up on the second one, and this is where I think Voeckler will drop off. He gave everything today and his team has given everything for a week. I think he'll finish 7 or 8 minutes back. I'd go with Mayo for the win, he looked pretty good today, but don't discount Lance with 6 teammates to take him over the climbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollow
    I think most of the race will be together over the first Cat. 1. It will start to break up on the second one, and this is where I think Voeckler will drop off. He gave everything today and his team has given everything for a week. I think he'll finish 7 or 8 minutes back. I'd go with Mayo for the win, he looked pretty good today, but don't discount Lance with 6 teammates to take him over the climbs.
    voeckler's looked like he's about to crack on every stage so far, and yet he doesn't, at least not entirely (though he was riding switchbacks up to the line today!). i hope he hangs in there respectably. i'm geeked up about tomorrow. should be quite the showdown!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgreene
    voeckler's looked like he's about to crack on every stage so far, and yet he doesn't, at least not entirely
    He must be doping.

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    How about Jakob Piil? Despite being on the attack nearly the entire Tour, he finished this stage ahead of some big guns like Hamilton. He is now sitting in 8th place on GC, ahead of riders like Sastre, Leipheimer, Ullrich, Hamilton, Heras, Simoni, and Mayo. It may end tomorrow (or it may NOT!), but what an impressive run thus far by the CSC rider. Eh???

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    Quote Originally Posted by bac
    How about Jakob Piil? Despite being on the attack nearly the entire Tour, he finished this stage ahead of some big guns like Hamilton. He is now sitting in 8th place on GC, ahead of riders like Sastre, Leipheimer, Ullrich, Hamilton, Heras, Simoni, and Mayo. It may end tomorrow (or it may NOT!), but what an impressive run thus far by the CSC rider. Eh???
    csc impresses the crap out of me. it's one of the reasons i'm thinking about a cervelo for my next bike.
    with piil, sastre and basso, they look very strong at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgreene
    csc impresses the crap out of me. it's one of the reasons i'm thinking about a cervelo for my next bike.
    with piil, sastre and basso, they look very strong at the moment.
    I'm thinking about hiring Riis as a personal coach. I bet he could help me in the "pharmaceuticals" department.

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    Hell yeah! Mr. 56% himself!
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    Postal is the team of the tour but CSC is probably the team of the year.
    i may have overreacted

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    If anyone wants to see the profile of the final climb in particular, go here http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/eta_tdf/Beille.php

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    I think the Tour will be decided tomorrow, it will be this year main stage. The hype of the Alpe d'Huez stage is just a screen, it will be great but I don't think the time difference between the top contenders will be that great there, may be 1' or 2'. Look at what happened today. Lance will go for the "coup de grace" tomorrow. As of today I only see Basso between Lance and #6. Basso looked really easy at the finish.

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    What about the day after the Alpe d'Huez stage? How taxing will the ITT up Alpe d'Huez be on the riders. Stage 17 looks really hard too me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brent_dube
    If anyone wants to see the profile of the final climb in particular, go here http://www.memoire-du-cyclisme.net/eta_tdf/Beille.php
    that's a great link ... if only I were able to read french. How great would it be to make your life goal to climb all the famous hills of the tour since inception;

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    Hamilton Abandons!

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    Zubeldia too.. and we havent even reached the first cat 1 climb

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    Poor Tyler! Hmmm, who's going to be my backup underdog?

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    I'm really disappointed in/for Tyler Hamilton. From finishing the TDF with a broken collar bone, to abandoning this year when he is a new team leader on a new strong team.
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    Menchov abandons. Damn! He had a good day yesterday too.

    There goes my guy.
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    Alright, what's going on? Is the route too brutal? Is the pace, this year, killing everyone? Why are some legitimate big dogs abandoning? Could Mayo to be next. I never thought he would have problems in these mountains!
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    Voeckler is my new hero!! The kid has heart! I would love to see him keep the jersey today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kerank
    Voeckler is my new hero!! The kid has heart! I would love to see him keep the jersey today.
    I'm a BIG fan of Voeckler. I've never seen a rider yo-yo off the back, but ALWAYS come back into the fold like he does. Regardless as to what happens from this point forward, I'm impressed.

    Tyler ..... next year, holmes.

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