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    Le 9 juillet 196 km
    Sono pi lento di quel che sembra.
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    Did I miss anything exciting on todays stage?

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    a bunch of little crashes. not much else.

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    A crash just took out most of the riders in the final kilometer. According to cyclingnews.com, only 20 riders left with the rubber side down.

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    and a big one exactly at the 1km mark.. had that crash taken place a few meters before it could have made a big dfference in times..

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    Boonen takes the sprint!

    Lots of crashes. Lance went down.
    i may have overreacted

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    Can't remember a tour with this many crashes! Seems like all of the contenders have gone down, except Ullrich.
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    Man, Flecha was hauling ass! I was jumping up and down, yelling for him. Bold move, It was the only chance he had, he knew it, he took it, but Alas........

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    What a mess this tour is. I felt bad for Flecha after such hard work that was quite impressive. Bummed about Cippo too

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    You all can pretend you're Lance, but on the commute home today I'm gonna be Juan Flecha!
    I'm curious about the cyclingnews report that says, "The crash was in the final kilometre, so nobody should be penalised on GC." How does that work? Did everyone who crawled in after the crash get the same time as the 20 who made it without crashing? Any resources for this stuff online?

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    If a crash occurs in the last 1 km, afaik, they all get the same time as the winner. Check www.letour.fr

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    2.6.026

    In the case of a duly noted fall, puncture or mechanical incident beyond the red flare, the rider or riders
    involved shall be credited with the time of the rider or riders in whose company they were riding
    at the moment of the accident. His or their placing shall be determined by the order in which he or
    they actually cross the finishing line.

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    If, as the result of a fall beyond the red flare, a rider cannot cross the finishing line, he shall be
    placed last in the stage and credited with the time of the rider or riders in whose company he was
    riding at the time of the accident.
    i may have overreacted

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    Rene Haselbacher went down hard today during the final sprint. He got messed up pretty bad. Here's hoping he's ok.
    i may have overreacted

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    It's like, so obvious he's thinking, "Thank God my arse isn't showing, like it was last year."

    Poor ol' Haselbacher. Take it easy, Rene.

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    At least he's got his two front teeth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothie104
    Man, Flecha was hauling ass! I was jumping up and down, yelling for him. Bold move, It was the only chance he had, he knew it, he took it, but Alas........
    I was also hoping beyond hope he could hold on. What an effort just to be swept up and then have one of the 200meter specialists win the stage after not working half as much as he did.

    I'll be glad to get into the mountains where the pack fodder will flail and fail and cry the blues while the real strongmen race.

    But too bad for Fletcha, really was wishing he won.

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    Fletchers push was heroic, if doomed. Somebody buy that man a beer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceiliazul
    You all can pretend you're Lance, but on the commute home today I'm gonna be Juan Flecha!
    I think I'll be Jan Ullrich as he's apparently just about the only one who hasn't crashed.

    Lance went down in the crash at 13 km, but I think he just was caught behind the crash at the 1 km banner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alrocket
    If a crash occurs in the last 1 km, afaik, they all get the same time as the winner. Check www.letour.fr
    Could this be a motivation for people to "fake" involvement in a fall, to help their time? Or motivation to cause a fall? I read the rule but still don't fully understand it.

    As to all the injuries, isn't there SOME sort of protective gear these guys could wear (other than a helmet) that wouldn't create too much drag? Even some thin absorbent elbow guards would help!

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    Good for Boonen, he's got a bright future.

    And my green jersey pick O'Grady is in the maillot vert, excellent. Hopefully he can keep it this time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Towlie
    Could this be a motivation for people to "fake" involvement in a fall, to help their time? Or motivation to cause a fall? I read the rule but still don't fully understand it.

    As to all the injuries, isn't there SOME sort of protective gear these guys could wear (other than a helmet) that wouldn't create too much drag? Even some thin absorbent elbow guards would help!

    It would do no good to "fake" involvement in a fall as you have to be with the group anyway to get that time.

    The reason is basically to not penalize riders during the run up to the sprint where things can get dodgy. Just like the same time rule is to encourage those who do not care about the sprint to hang back and make things safer.

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    Notice that Dekker dropped off the back near the finish, but finished with the peloton because of the crash. But he still got his actual time, unlike all of the other riders ahead and behind him. Which is right. (in regards to faking a fall)

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    I haven't seen the race yet, but was the weather really bad for today's stage?
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    There were some brief squalls, but it seemed to rain only on the peloton (at least while I was watching - I've missed the finish all THREE times it's been broadcast so far )

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