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    Armstrong is the true winner by raising awarness for Cancer.

    I think Armstrong did what he came out to do. While he would of liked to win supposedly, he definitely has raised more awareness for livestrong that's for sure in the TDF. People don't get it, this guy isn't just riding for himself, he is riding for everyone out there struggling with cancer. But he understands the better he does in cycling, the more people will watch him, so raising awareness and finishing strong goes hand in hand. He isn't just a 7 time TDF Champion, but he is also a humanitarian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenisMenchov View Post
    I think Armstrong did what he came out to do. While he would of liked to win supposedly, he definitely has raised more awareness for livestrong that's for sure in the TDF. People don't get it, this guy isn't just riding for himself, he is riding for everyone out there struggling with cancer. But he understands the better he does in cycling, the more people will watch him, so raising awareness and finishing strong goes hand in hand. He isn't just a 7 time TDF Champion, but he is also a humanitarian.
    His 3rd place finish is more of an impact than Contador's 1st place finish.....in my opinion.

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    If you look at the Livestrong website or his twitter feed it is obvious what he means to some people that can relate to him and his cancer experience. It's too bad that there are those that would rather tear him down than acknowledge his presence of hope in addition to what he brings to the world of cycling. Here's to TRS and raising the bar for next year on all fronts.

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    I do not believe Armstrong should be put on any pedestal, nor do I believe he knocked down for his efforts.

    Neither winner or loser .

    He is but a human being . . like all of us.


    Hope, is a kind of fools gold. It's like walking down a dark alley in the middle of the night . . . . and whistling as we go to in an attempt to hide from our fears. There are no monsters "out there". . . the monsters lie within us. It takes courage to embrace the fear. . . to stick with the present moment, because it's all we have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garthr View Post
    I do not believe Armstrong should be put on any pedestal, nor do I believe he knocked down for his efforts.

    Neither winner or loser .

    He is but a human being . . like all of us.


    Hope, is a kind of fools gold. It's like walking down a dark alley in the middle of the night . . . . and whistling as we go to in an attempt to hide from our fears. There are no monsters "out there". . . the monsters lie within us. It takes courage to embrace the fear. . . to stick with the present moment, because it's all we have.


    I'll bet big money on the fact that you would Llooove to be able
    to ride beside him in the Tour. I for one, would love too.

    Yep, we are all Human. Some of are just more capable.




    Johnnybee.

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    Fortunately the TDF is a bike race, not an awarness ride or fundrasier.
    i may have overreacted

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    I wish Howzit could read / reply to this topic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laggard View Post
    Fortunately the TDF is a bike race, not an awarness ride or fundrasier.
    It can be both, and for many people that is a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noobz0r View Post
    I wish Howzit could read / reply to this topic
    Why, so he can make some more snide remarks?

    We don't need more of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garthr View Post
    Why, so he can make some more snide remarks?

    We don't need more of that.
    Well I am sort of thinking Bellweatherman has filled his shoes, but then again they may be one in the same.

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    It was a joke, I didn't like wading through his drivel either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laggard View Post
    Fortunately the TDF is a bike race, not an awarness ride or fundrasier.
    Not a a ride for awareness or fundraising? Tell that to Garmin, HTC, Columbia, FdJ, Skill, Shimano, Cd'E, Liquigas, Skoda, Rabobank, etc., etc.

    Actually, I think what Lance has done for raising awareness, funds and pushing programs to fight cancer and help its victims is amazing and should truly be lauded. But I was glad to see that aside from the Livestrong logo on his helmet and bike and a few interview comments that there was not some huge push of Livestrong. It left the race be the race. I'm sure that this mission is part of his motivation but I'll bet if you interviewed the full peloton that you would find other inspirational stories.
    May your tires or beer never be flat.

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    I've got to learn more about cancer. I never even heard about it until this year's Tour.

    Thank you Lance.

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    you guys are re-tar-ded
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    There's really nothing that says "spirit of cycling" like killing everything in sight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laggard View Post
    Fortunately the TDF is a bike race, not an awarness ride or fundrasier.
    yep. you can raise awareness and do good things without be a backstabbing a-hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erader View Post
    yep. you can raise awareness and do good things without be a backstabbing a-hole.

    ed rader
    Oh, you are back from the wedding in a cheery mood today aren't you.

    Well you are accomplishing 1 of the 3 above things, and I think you know what I mean!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hdog View Post
    I've got to learn more about cancer. I never even heard about it until this year's Tour.

    Thank you Lance.
    haha... i also think its ridiculous that the media always credits lance with "raising awareness" for cancer... lance is an inspiration to many people that are battling cancer... but this has nothing to do with awareness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowlife1975 View Post
    haha... i also think its ridiculous that the media always credits lance with "raising awareness" for cancer... lance is an inspiration to many people that are battling cancer... but this has nothing to do with awareness.
    He is one of many raising awareness, plus his work helps raise money for research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by julian View Post
    Oh, you are back from the wedding in a cheery mood today aren't you.

    Well you are accomplishing 1 of the 3 above things, and I think you know what I mean!
    when i saw the interview this morning with lance i wanted to puke. when asked about contador he made that face and declined to comment and said "people can see what's going on."

    what i heard was "paled around with terrorists".

    lance is a self-centered, self-serving a-hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erader View Post
    when i saw the interview this morning with lance i wanted to puke. when asked about contador he made that face and declined to comment and said "people can see what's going on."

    what i heard was "paled around with terrorists".

    lance is a self-centered, self-serving a-hole.

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    When most of the rest of us read your posts, they make us want to puke, eat some more, then puke all over again!
    It must be lovely being you. Anyone who harbors such hatred against someone that they have never met needs some help.
    Good bye Eddie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erader View Post
    when i saw the interview this morning with lance i wanted to puke. when asked about contador he made that face and declined to comment and said "people can see what's going on."

    what i heard was "paled around with terrorists".

    lance is a self-centered, self-serving a-hole.

    ed rader


    Well Ed . . . I can say this in all seriousness and humility . . . . it takes one to know one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowlife1975 View Post
    haha... i also think its ridiculous that the media always credits lance with "raising awareness" for cancer... lance is an inspiration to many people that are battling cancer... but this has nothing to do with awareness.
    Bringing attention to Cancer is, by definition, increasing awareness.

    I've dealt with it professionally, as a physician, and personally. My wife actually sobbed through the last thirty minutes of Ventoux. Lance may very well be a jerk in real life and should never be exempt from the responsibilities of being a decent human being, but he has done an exceptional job as an advocate for funding and research and, hence, "awareness". Just my opinion, but there really is not much more to say about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by julian View Post
    When most of the rest of us read your posts, they make us want to puke, eat some more, then puke all over again!
    It must be lovely being you. Anyone who harbors such hatred against someone that they have never met needs some help.
    Good bye Eddie.
    i don't hate the guy but i do think he's an a-hole and wished he would have stayed on the olson twins and stayed off the bike .

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    Quote Originally Posted by robotkiller View Post
    Bringing attention to Cancer is, by definition, increasing awareness.

    I've dealt with it professionally, as a physician, and personally. My wife actually sobbed through the last thirty minutes of Ventoux. Lance may very well be a jerk in real life and should never be exempt from the responsibilities of being a decent human being, but he has done an exceptional job as an advocate for funding and research and, hence, "awareness". Just my opinion, but there really is not much more to say about it.
    my thought is a good deed is a good deed no matter what your motivation. but to watch lance attempt to usurp the command of the best stage racer in the world and swiftboat the guy while hiring away astana team members for his own team and make me want to puke.

    could you imagine if someone had done that to lance when he was captain of postal or discovery? well you don't have to dig to deep to see how he treats people that defy him.

    so yeah lance has done alot of good but he's still an a-hole.

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    I agree with the op, he's done great work. Today on Live TV, Laurent Fignon broke down in tears when speaking about Lance and the work he had done raising awarness for Cancer.

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