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    "Contador Slams Armstrong"

    It doesn's sound like a slam to me but they want to sell newspapers so flashy headlines it is!

    Contador Slams Armstrong

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    Hasn't Contador in the past called Lance one of his idols?

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    Contrador is a whiner.

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    ^idols change, especially when they try to knock you down.

    i agree this is no slam, and frankly nothing i didn't already know. it's been discussed ad nauseum (to me) and i think it's only fair for contador to be pissed that lance tried to come take over as leader of team astana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Christopher View Post
    It doesn's sound like a slam to me but they want to sell newspapers so flashy headlines it is!

    Contador Slams Armstrong
    Exactly. If you read what he said, it wasn't a slam at all but a description of the stresses within the team.

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    ""My relationship with Lance is non-existent. Even if he is a great champion, I have never had admiration for him and I never will," the Spaniard told a news conference in Madrid."

    That is serious stuff.

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    The kid had a right to be pissed. Armstrong wedging himself into Astana would be like 5 people sitting in a 5 person car about to drive off for a cross country road trip. At the last minute the drivers best friend says "Hey! I want to come, I'm just going to squeeze in here with you guys, THAT'S ALRIGHT, RIGHT..?"

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    I have a lot of sympathy for Contador. He basically got screwed twice, the last 2 years; being denied the right to defend in 2008 his TDF championsip, and Astana taking on Armstrong.

    That said, I don't think Contador is being very savvy. No need to piss off Armstrong. Contador needs to 1) learn to deal with the media, 2) become fluent in English, and 3) not piss off Armstrong.

    Some efforts on all 3 fronts would be worth a lot of coin to Contador.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
    I have a lot of sympathy for Contador. He basically got screwed twice, the last 2 years; being denied the right to defend in 2008 his TDF championsip, and Astana taking on Armstrong.

    That said, I don't think Contador is being very savvy. No need to piss off Armstrong. Contador needs to 1) learn to deal with the media, 2) become fluent in English, and 3) not piss off Armstrong.

    Some efforts on all 3 fronts would be worth a lot of coin to Contador.
    True. He has a lot of PR work to do but even then, its hard to top LA, who's a superstar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monosierra View Post
    ""My relationship with Lance is non-existent. Even if he is a great champion, I have never had admiration for him and I never will," the Spaniard told a news conference in Madrid."

    That is serious stuff.
    I have to wonder if part of this was garbled in the translation.
    The search for inner peace continues...

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAZorro View Post
    I have to wonder if part of this was garbled in the translation.
    I have to think he comes off poorly, particularly to many Americans, because of language difficulties.

    Learning English would have to help his worldwide market appeal. He may be content with winning bike races and being a huge deal in Spain.

    Otherwise he needs to get better handlers and work on the media, financial side of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by julian View Post
    Contrador is a winner.
    Fixed that for you.

    Contador's done a good job of keeping his trap shut to this point and saying the PC things in a team context, especially as Armstrong shoehorned his way into the Astana team.

    A part of me wanted Armstrong to succeed, but the logical part of my brain was happy that AC put Lance in his place on the road.

    Just because AC doesn't have the PR muscle of Lance, most of the world thinks Lance's word is gospel. That's a hoot.

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    I'd like to hear 5 or so different translations of what was said. My Spanish is barely existent, and even I've been able to pick up on translation errors over the past few weeks.

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    What a whiny little *****.

    Before the Tour: Oh, Lance is one of my idols and inspired me to get back on the bike after my brain surgery.

    After the Tour: I never admired the guy.

    The truth is probably somewhere in between.

    I can understand the frustration at having JB take LA on, and essentially stealing your spotlight, but you still WON THE G-D TOUR.
    Armstrong friggin' worked for him and played domestique in the alps.

    He's an ass, and what's more, he's not wasting any time making an enemy out of a once-teammate who is putting together his own team next year. I bet winning the tour will be a lot more difficult for you if you have 9 guys actively trying to screw you out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
    I have to think he comes off poorly, particularly to many Americans, because of language difficulties.

    Learning English would have to help his worldwide market appeal. He may be content with winning bike races and being a huge deal in Spain.

    Otherwise he needs to get better handlers and work on the media, financial side of things.
    To quote the original:

    "La relación ha sido dura, es un grandísimo campeón, pero nunca le ha tenido admiración, ni se la tendré", dijo Contador...

    "The relationship has been difficult. He is a great champion, but I have never had admiration for him, and neither will I"

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    Is this guy going to be another Lemond. Whining is so unbecoming. AC was part of the strongest team ever assembled and he obviously can't handle sharing any of the spotlight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyLowe97 View Post
    Contador's done a poor job of keeping his trap shut to this point and saying the wrong things in a team context, especially as Armstrong helped him along with the rest of the Astana team.

    All of me wanted Armstrong to fail, but the illlogical part of my brain was happy that AC put Lance in his place on the road.

    Just because AC doesn't have the a PR muscle in his soul,and he thinks it is all about him
    Fixed that for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by julian View Post
    Fixed that for you!
    Spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monosierra View Post
    True. He has a lot of PR work to do but even then, its hard to top LA, who's a superstar.
    i think contador has alot more people in his corner than you think.

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    The organizer of the Tour was ecstatic about the rivalry... he was going on about how great rivalries promote the sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McSpin View Post
    Is this guy going to be another Lemond. Whining is so unbecoming. AC was part of the strongest team ever assembled and he obviously can't handle sharing any of the spotlight.
    besides contador astana had three aging "GC" guys who could not win the tour.

    lance may have you and others buffaloed but contador was by far the strongest man on the team, and in the TDF.

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    There won't be a LA/AC rivalry. It's going to be AC and Andy Schleck.

    Lance, for all his ego, I think realizes that he can't ride with them any more. My prediction is that in forming Team RadioShack, he becomes a Directeur Sportive that happens to be on the road with the rest of the team. He'll recruit some young talent that can go out and hammer with AC and AS, and leave it to them.

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    Nothing newsworthy here. Some people don't get along well. We've all been there. None of this changed the outcome anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erader View Post
    besides contador astana had three aging "GC" guys who could not win the tour.

    lance may have you and others buffaloed but contador was by far the strongest man on the team, and in the TDF.

    ed rader.
    LA said as much himself.

    So what's AC got to whine about? Oh woe is me, I'm the strongest guy on the strongest (arguably) cycling team ever assembled! I won by 5 minutes! Boooooo hoooo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erader View Post
    besides contador astana had three aging "GC" guys who could not win the tour.

    lance may have you and others buffaloed but contador was by far the strongest man on the team, and in the TDF.

    ed rader.
    Agreed. Much as I admire LA for his record and story, it was clear that AC was the strongest rider. Its like Wayne Gretzky coming out of retirement to join the Penguins and kicking Crosby out as captain right away.

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