monosierra

I'm fairly neutral over LA as a person. He is a terrific bike rider, and a force of good for some causes. But this is an interesting blog article that summarizes the whole LA/AC thing, plus insightful comments into the 'accusations' thrown by the Spanish press. The blogger, an LA supporter, is even-handed and objective in his analysis:

Lance Armstrong = Giant ******?

(NSFW ads, apparently)

garysol1 

An article (blog?) written by a nobody who is a Lance hater.....no new news there

monosierra

There are some points made that I haven't seen before. Plus, he's very even-handed.

Take for instance the water bottle incident, when LA intercepted a bottle that a Caisse rider was trying to pass to AC. The author noted that this could have been innocent on LA's part, although skipping the dinner later was 'classless'.

Garthr

Well you see . . . opinions of LA are truly a mirror to your personal beliefs. Did he do this ? Did he do that? Do I care what he does to X and not to Y? On and on it goes.

The joke's on all of us. He's just another human being . . like you and me. Everyone's sh!! stinks.


We're all Right. . . and We're all Wrong.

Phantoj

Mother Teresa... Pol Pot... just another human being... there's a little good and a little evil in all of us?

Is this really your belief?

GV27

Heck, I don't need no stinkin' article. I know the truth from BikeForums.net: there is no Lance, only Satan.

GV27

LOL - Mother Theresa, Pol Pot and Lance Armstrong. And here I thought Lance was just a dude who gets paid to pedal around on a bike!

kb5ql

Lance is the Shooter McGavin of cycling.

LA:
"I eat pieces of sh*t like you for breakfast!"

AC:
"You eat pieces of sh*t?"

bellweatherman

That article was far from a negative article against Armstrong. I don't think you read much of it. There isn't so much opinion against Armstrong as there is objective reports on articles that were already published. Armstrong put his own foot in his mouth. He didn't need any help from the writer of that article.

garysol1 

Guess you missed the title of the "Blog".

Mr_Christopher

I am neither a fan boy nor an LA hater and I think it was a good article, well worth the read. In fact I really like LA and AC as athletes but I don't want to hang out with either of them. Like Terrell Owens, I like him on the field but he is not invited to my birthday parties.

My favorite line in this article is:

"The real question is why didn't Bruyneel have control over his team?"

Had Bruynell controlled his team he'd be rich and winning many more le Tours the next 5 years. As is he'll just be plenty rich.

monosierra

The 'blogger' summarizes every bit of news on the whole feud/affair, and is pretty objective about the whole thing. I think blog or not, this is a good summation of all that's been going on with this LA/AC thing.

CheatorBeat

The author even says he roots for Lance. The title has a question mark, which softens it a bit. I do think its interesting to see a perspective on events that is different from the normal coverage we get in the United States.

I personally am a fan of Lance, and think he is a team guy. However I do see the point that in his wins, he asked everyone to sacrifice for him, and his result was the only thing that mattered. That same philosophy didn't extend to Contador this year. I don't remember him ever trying to get Floyd, Tyler, George, Levi, Roberto, or any of his domestiques on the podium.

The water bottle thing is possibly a bit overblown. I know Lance has said numerous times you have to watch your food and water supplies, to make sure people don't try to poison or plant drugs in your system. I would assume the water bottle incident was due to this reason.

Either way, I support Lance, but I think its good to see a different perspective on things sometimes.

bengreen79

There are some NSFW ads on that page. Out of courtesy, you might want to edit your first post so people are aware.

monosierra

Done.

Varns269

I dont think he tried to get any of his domestiques on the podium, but what team does. Most of them have no shot at getting on the podium anyway. He tried to let Floyd win a stage after doing all the work for him, but floyd couldnt so he ended up winning it in the sprint. At the end of the tour though he always split his earnings evengly throughout his riders rewarding for their hardwork, so I think he is a team guy.

yes

Good and fair from my perspective. It restates some posts or ideas from online forums, almost verbatim. I would guess that the author has been reading and or contributing on here or cyclingnews.

Long live Sir Lance-a-lot to learn. Retweeted.

SunSwingsLow

We hate lance thread recipe...


place obligatory nameless blog as proof here _________________ because if its on the interwebz it must be true

place obligatory previous love here _____________________ so as to justify why everyone who still likes him is wrong

place final straw here ______________________ so as to justify your new found/continued lance hatred.

Mix in any order you would like, add ******* or ******** or *** for flavor

Click mouse and wait anywhere from 15-25 minutes for appropriate responses.

enjoy, rinse, repeat

monosierra

Excuse me, I said I'm fairly neutral about him.

And read the blog before posting, please.

SunSwingsLow

You used the word blogger, even handed and objective in the same sentence. There isnt a blogger on the planet that is all 3 of those things ever.

erader

objectivity makes lance look bad. check out the results of this poll.........

https://www.bikeforums.net/professional-cycling-fans/570225-did-your-opinion-armstrong-change-tour.html

the trend tells me that many more people view lance negatively since he made his "comeback". i know for me that's the case, as well as almost everyone i know.

the twitter war between AC and LA gets mentioned alot too and since only lance and his employees and buddies were tweeting that's gotta tell you something.

ed rader

erader

okay here's a version not written by a blogger. how will you discredit it ?

https://www.cyclingnews.com/features/...w-in-context-2

ed rader

monosierra

Never say never. If a blogger is even handed, then he most likely is objective.This one comes close - give him a shot!

SunSwingsLow

ok i read it. im sticking with my initial post.

DenisMenchov

Your going to go by a BF poll of a pool of about 45 people who participated, and say it's a trend? Sorry, but that's just ignorant.

This whole Lance / AC Rivalry is just a ploy to get people watching. It worked, many more people watched...and many more will watch next year ;P