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    Quote Originally Posted by hopsing08 View Post
    AC's performance would lead anyone to question him, as would LA's performance for 7 years. but the article by no means proves or even causes suspicion. I wouldn't say that either doped. they may be linked to someone but if there is no proof, it didnt happen. that's my opinion. no point in blasting someone if they can get tested 3 to 4 times a day for 3 weeks and still pass the tests. when he gets busted for doping then i will believe that he doped, that goes for LA and AC. not evidence that suggests that its a possibility. when they actually get busted.
    That's what I mean, is it possible that he's hiding the proof by not revealing his v02 max?

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    I think everyone should post their VO2 max.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenisMenchov View Post
    That's what I mean, is it possible that he's hiding the proof by not revealing his v02 max?
    "Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last?"

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    This thread is worthless. Associations, suspicions, innuendos might make you raise your eyebrows, but nothing really matters until there is hard physical evidence. That Conti doesn't want to reveal his VO2 max is a statement of his failures in handling press, not proof of guilt. It's time to worry about something more important...

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    All pro cyclists dope. If you think any of them are clean perhaps you'd be interested in some lovely land I am selling...

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Heath View Post
    Why does the OP start so much shyt?
    in no way am i defending the OP but i find that people post tons of threads on LA doping when there is still no actual proof. its strange how when someone else is questioned people get upset about it.

    i actually feel that if Lance is questioned in the same manner, every day on this forum, then everyone else in cycling who does anything suspicious, should be.

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    Funny how hardly anyone talks about the other races going on, even the Vuelta. Everything circles around LA and AC, even when they're not racing.

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    ^good point, how exactly is this thread different from the thousands of lance dope threads which don't offer the "smoking ***" or "hand in the cookie jar" scenario either. And I don't think revealing his v02 max is some how going to give other teams an advantage...so why not just reveal it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenisMenchov View Post
    And I don't think revealing his v02 max is some how going to give other teams an advantage...so why not just reveal it.
    Because no one, including you, is able to provide a reason to. Whatever was reported would be misinterpreted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGtrack View Post
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    cantador is skinny.

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    I prefer consuming bivalves.

    With butter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ooga-booga View Post
    "Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last?"
    Nice use of a historic quote. And perfectly applied as Contador not trying to prove a negative has automatically condemned him.

    It always seems like cynics want to win people over to their cynical view of the world. Their favorite ploy is to accuse someone of being naive in an attempt to turn them to the dark side via shame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMF View Post
    I prefer consuming bivalves.

    With butter.
    Lance hates bivalves because they don't dope.
    i may have overreacted

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregf83 View Post
    Because no one, including you, is able to provide a reason to. Whatever was reported would be misinterpreted.
    And no one is proving a reason for Contador not to. Maybe he's afraid they'll find out he's doping. Perhaps there is some credibility to Lemond's reasoning of vo2 max in relation to blood doping. Just sayin..

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    Lemond can accurately predict all race finishes now. No reason to race anymore. All riders give Greg VO2 Max and he can place all riders in their appropriate finish spots . Damn Greg is a whiz!!! and DenisMenchov too!! Yall are some smart cupcakes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenisMenchov View Post
    And no one is proving a reason for Contador not to. Maybe he's afraid they'll find out he's doping. Perhaps there is some credibility to Lemond's reasoning of vo2 max in relation to blood doping. Just sayin..
    Why doesn't Denis Menchov post his Vo2 max?
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    Quote Originally Posted by USAZorro View Post
    Why doesn't Denis Menchov post his Vo2 max?
    Obviously he's a doper. Why else would he hide the results?

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    I think people should quit worrying about this crap and focus on things that matter like the ongoing Worlds.
    i may have overreacted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laggard View Post
    I think people should quit worrying about this crap and focus on things that matter like the ongoing Worlds.
    I'm right with you there. Unfortunately, I'm not above attempting to highlight absurdities.
    The search for inner peace continues...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gear View Post
    Obviously he's a doper. Why else would he hide the results?
    Absolutely. In cases of doping, absence of evidence is as good as proof of guilt.
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    Meh, I don't know. I like AC regardless, so I'll just give him the benefit of the doubt. Lemond's v02 max can't be a perfect science. If anyone knows the details of how he relates v02 to doping, chime in.

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    I think Greg's the only person qualified to do that, and there's been some speculation that he got himself banned here. Perhaps a different channel would be more appropriate.
    The search for inner peace continues...

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