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    TDF 2010 course is announced - Trickier w/even more climbs

    http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/...ling-tour.html

    PARIS (Reuters) - Alberto Contador will have to contend with treacherous cobblestones and blustery North Sea winds before sinking his teeth into next year's Tour de France mountain stages after the route was unveiled on Wednesday.

    But the Spaniard, Tour champion in 2007 and 2009 and arguably the best climber in the world, can look forward to stretching his rivals in the Pyrenees, which will be the highlight of cycling's showcase event in 2010.

    Four stages, including a grueling 16th stage with four daunting climbs, will be held in the mountains that form the border between France and Spain.

    One hundred years after first featuring on the Tour map, the Pyrenees could be the scene of a classic battle between Contador and seven times champion Lance Armstrong. ... Full article at link above.

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    Comment. Anyone really expect Lance to be Contador's closest rival next year?
    I think Schleck should have been mentioned as Contador's closest rival with Bradley Wiggins in the mix. (that guy transformed himself and if not for the injuries to team members would have been even more dangerous)
    BTW, article doesn't mention it, but after all the stage wins by Cavendish, I wonder if they will give BONUS time for stage wins. (I think it would be a good idea. It will add another wrinkle into how teams manage the race)

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    why would you quote the NYT for cycling news?

    Comment. Contador and Schleck will crash on the 13km of cobbles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteelCan View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/...ling-tour.html

    PARIS (Reuters) - Alberto Contador will have to contend with treacherous cobblestones and blustery North Sea winds before sinking his teeth into next year's Tour de France mountain stages after the route was unveiled on Wednesday.

    But the Spaniard, Tour champion in 2007 and 2009 and arguably the best climber in the world, can look forward to stretching his rivals in the Pyrenees, which will be the highlight of cycling's showcase event in 2010.

    Four stages, including a grueling 16th stage with four daunting climbs, will be held in the mountains that form the border between France and Spain.

    One hundred years after first featuring on the Tour map, the Pyrenees could be the scene of a classic battle between Contador and seven times champion Lance Armstrong. ... Full article at link above.

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    Comment. Anyone really expect Lance to be Contador's closest rival next year?
    I think Schleck should have been mentioned as Contador's closest rival with Bradley Wiggins in the mix. (that guy transformed himself and if not for the injuries to team members would have been even more dangerous)
    BTW, article doesn't mention it, but after all the stage wins by Cavendish, I wonder if they will give BONUS time for stage wins. (I think it would be a good idea. It will add another wrinkle into how teams manage the race)
    For this 2010 edition, no bonuses will be awarded in intermediate sprints and stage finishes. Official time remains the absolute reference.

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    I bet Team RadioShack will win 2010 TDf, and a certain guy name Lance is going to own Contador in the mountains.

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    Seems like an "easier" route through the Alps set up for an epic week in the Pyrenees...climbing the Tourmalet twice! Although, lack of a TTT will make it harder for LA methinks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by teetopkram View Post
    Seems like an "easier" route through the Alps set up for an epic week in the Pyrenees...climbing the Tourmalet twice! Although, lack of a TTT will make it harder for LA methinks...
    No TTT, Lance a year older (but with full training this time I guess), Contador with a weaker team, big climbs at the end. Looks favorable for Andy Schleck if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quel View Post
    No TTT, Lance a year older (but with full training this time I guess), Contador with a weaker team, big climbs at the end. Looks favorable for Andy Schleck if you ask me.
    Yeah right, especially the 51km ITT day before Paris looks very favorable for Andy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jancouver View Post
    Yeah right, especially the 51km ITT day before Paris looks very favorable for Andy
    Cancellara > A. Schleck > Rasmussen

    Andy's not bad for a climber, and I can guarantee he'll be working on his TT even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frunkin View Post
    Cancellara > A. Schleck > Rasmussen

    Andy's not bad for a climber, and I can guarantee he'll be working on his TT even more.
    Correct...

    http://www.velonews.com/article/9923...010-tour-route

    Can't lift the artical to paste, but Schleck states that while the final TT doesn't suit his abilities, he is improving...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jancouver View Post
    Yeah right, especially the 51km ITT day before Paris looks very favorable for Andy
    Andy finished 18th and 21st in the two ITTs last year, losing about 2'45 total, and another 0'40 in the TTT. Not good enough to keep up with Contador or some of the other GC favorites, but not terrible. He should be able to get some ground in the other stages just because Astana will be so much weaker next year. I certainly wouldn't trade Lance/Kloden/Levi/Johan for Vinokourov. Anyways, it's 9 months away, so we'll resume this talk in about 8 months .

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    Quote Originally Posted by FR4NCH1SE View Post
    I bet Team RadioShack will win 2010 TDf, and a certain guy name Lance is going to own Contador in the mountains.
    you really should go to 217. you'll fit in nicely with the other ignorant idiots.

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    the smiley at the end doesn't mask your smugness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sneekyjesus View Post
    the smiley at the end doesn't mask your smugness.
    He should be smug. I don't know how people could watch the races I've seen over the past few years and bet against Contador. The only chance he loses is a crash/etcetera.

    Quote Originally Posted by FR4NCH1SE View Post
    <insert the blank> is going to own Contador in the mountains.
    Have you never seen Contador race up a mountain? The only guy who I've seen that stood a chance was Rasmussen, while Contador was still pretty young, and Rasmussen was, at a minimum, breaking the rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FR4NCH1SE View Post
    I bet Team RadioShack will win 2010 TDf, and a certain guy name Lance is going to own Contador in the mountains.
    Might I suggest:


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    I don't think LA has a chance against AC, but what kind of support will AC have and what team?

    I'm thinking no TTT because last year showed how one team can dominate the GC standings just based upon that.

    I wish they'd bring back time bonuses - I think it makes for a bit more spirited racing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpled View Post
    I'm thinking no TTT because last year showed how one team can dominate the GC standings just based upon that.
    The team time trial has had a rough history with the Tour.

    If the organizers take actual time, then teams can dominate like Discovery did.

    If the organizers limit time losses, it disincentivizes teams to go 100%.

    If the organizers remove the TTT, people complain because - let's face it - they're a spectacle.
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    I would appreciate a Lance fan to identify where and how LA is going to put time on AC. AC rode this years tour solo, pulled an old man along in the TTT, fought off tactical and psychological attacks from his own"team" and still rode away from everyone when ever he wanted to. I don't see any reason for AC not to be stronger and on a better "team" next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quel View Post
    Contador with a weaker team
    Who said? Nobody knows for sure where he's headed yet. If it's Caisse, you'll be eating those words.

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    What ever taem AC is on they won't be able to support him less than Astana did at the 09 Tour. Unless of course if he takes Cadels spot on Silence lotto.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curiouskid55 View Post
    What ever taem AC is on they won't be able to support him less than Astana did at the 09 Tour. Unless of course if he takes Cadels spot on Silence lotto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcheung View Post
    The team time trial has had a rough history with the Tour.

    If the organizers take actual time, then teams can dominate like Discovery did.

    If the organizers limit time losses, it disincentivizes teams to go 100%.

    If the organizers remove the TTT, people complain because - let's face it - they're a spectacle.
    dude,

    you really need to step back from comments about the tour and its history, especially when you cite discovery, and their 'historical' three year run.

    just sayin'
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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    you really should go to 217. you'll fit in nicely with the other ignorant idiots.
    Typical Botto insulting post.

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    I still will miss the team TT.
    I also would not mind seeing the alp duez TT again. that made things interesting. in fact, that would make one CRAZY prologue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YMCA View Post
    Who said? Nobody knows for sure where he's headed yet. If it's Caisse, you'll be eating those words.
    When does his contract end? All I've heard is that Astana will enforce his 2010 contract year and not let it go, but not sure if that runs into July.

    And I don't expect Lance to win, but I would expect an even better showing than this year. He's older, but he had more full training time under his belt, and he broke his collarbone at the end of March which interrupted some training as well.

    I'm not really sure how I'm going to rectify my comments that Andy Schleck will win, Lance will do better, and Lance won't beat Contador, but there we go. Should be one of the more entertaining tours in recent years. The young sprinters, the Schleck brothers, RadioShack, Lance vs Contador, wildcard comebacks (Vino, Rasmussen).

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    Quote Originally Posted by botto View Post
    dude,

    you really need to step back from comments about the tour and its history, especially when you cite discovery, and their 'historical' three year run.

    just sayin'
    Way to nitpick. US Postal, Discovery, whatever you want to call it, was certainly around longer than three years. And "history" doesn't have to mean dating back to the founding days of the Tour.

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