Do you really think LA, who is known to be a perfectionist and a control freak to boot, will tolerate anyone on his TEAM who won't get with the program?
LA convinced himself that all his rivals were doping, and he wants to win, so how could a non-doper help him win?
Maybe "pressured" is too strong a word, but there is no doubt in my mind that you could not be on LA's team if you were clean.
Birth Certificate, Passport, Marriage License Driver's License and Residency Permit all say I'm a Fred. I guess there's no denying it.
The nice thing about all this is that that if you want an inexpensive early 00's CF bike and don't care what it says on it (or have access to a can of spray paint), now might just be the time to get your best deal as all the people who bought those post office special editions start putting them on the market.
I've never ridden CF and am not so sure about getting a used one, but some of these are probably garage queens that have been barely ridden. It's tempting to at least take a look into what's out there. I'm cheap enough that I'd probably just keep the paint original and boast about the good deal I got to anyone who said anything.
Do you guys think Armstrong should have streets, roads, even bikeways named after him?
Can we help these guys out? The cycling community in Austin, Texas is organizing an online petition to remove Lance Armstrong's name from the official Bikeway in downtown Austin. Armstrong was previously honored by the city of Austin by naming the bikeway in his name. Now, a group of cyclists want that changed. Please help these guys out by signing the petition to have Armstrong's name eradicated from this honor.
Change.org petition - Strip the name of Lance Armstrong off of the Lance Armstrong Bikeway
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Speed Kills...It kills those that don't have it!
The above ^^ post was moved from Commuting, as it clearly wasn't relevant in that forum.
I think it's clear that Armstrong pressured those around to him dope. I don't think it matters that Frankie was doping prior, those two statements don't cancel each other out. The context I'm speaking of is Armstrong - these questions are rarely being asked of Frankie because the interviewer is interested in Frankie...they're really asking about Armstrong. It makes sense to me to frame the responses in relation to Armstrong's involvement.
I don't know, I mean it's pretty obvious that Frankie lied about his drug use. He is a drug cheat, after all, in many ways no better or worse than any of the others. I just think that, generally speaking, since his admission he has been at least mostly consistent.
I certainly agree though, that this detailed look at the timeline of his statements is revealing of a tendency to, if not outright lie, at least shade his responses to put himself in a better light.
Imagine you're Armstrong and you're listening to those two giving interview after interview saying Frankie only used EPO in 1999 to help you in 1999! He probably wanted nothing more than to say: "this lying sack of **** has been using EPO since 1996, and his psycho wife knows it too!" However, knowing that he also was a lying, that wouldn't have been prudent for him.
But since Armstrong is a big ol' meanie and Frankie is the victim of bullying, it's easy for some to believe that Andreu was pressured to dope by Armstrong, although, there is nothing in Frankie's affidavit that suggests that.
Bill Burr discusses Lance on Conan O'Brian. Funny.
Haha, pretty much the truth!
Speaking of funny, I remember a few years back some chick at a burger stand was wearing a yellow Livestrong band. I asked if she cycled she said no. I asked if she knew what the yellow band meant.
She said someone gave it to her and said it was to fight cancer so she wore it thinking it released some kind of medicine to fight off cancer. ....
I just walked off and left it at that.
Its all about Oprah and her supporting actor.
I lost a lot of respect for Lance when I read his Not About the Bike book. He defended Nike labor practices (and they were under heat at the time) by providing the example that they can't be that bad, as they continued his health benefits when he got cancer. If he both 1) couldn't get the differences between himself, a world class endorsed athlete, and some person working in a factory in China and 2) so confidently not get, then I wasn't much interested in him after that point.
I still wear my yellow bracelet and it has nothin to do with LANCE. It has alot to do with keeping the big C always on the awareness that it is still very much out there and needs to be gone. Don't see near as many as I use to especially from the athletes. Makes me sad.
Oprah awareness: yes she's fine and on TV still!
Gotta decipher those fine comcast code letters now boys and girls to find her fine station sponsored by all those fine products for the age we live in.
"We unfurled upon an alpenstick the small silk"-Allen and Sachtleben, 4 July 1891 mid-tour atop Ararat.
Bruce Gordon BLT.
Diamondback LWB MTB.
Hennessy Hammock Deep Jungle.
Garmin Legend CX computer/GPS.