My (slightly tearful) reaction to the Armstrong news
10-11-12, 10:48 PM
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From day one in this case, as in every potential case, the USADA Board of Directors and professional staff did the job we are mandated to do for clean athletes and the integrity of sport. We focused solely on finding the truth without being influenced by celebrity or non-celebrity, threats, personal attacks or political pressure because that is what clean athletes deserve and demand.”
10-11-12, 10:49 PM
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I think the sad thing is all the people who have been betrayed, and who feel betrayed...because they believed him, because they believed in him, because they thought he was something he wasn't. It kind of reminds me of the Jerry Sandusky thing in a lot of ways. It was a code of silence because he had this great team, with great results, and everyone thought he was this big hero and great guy. They all feel betrayed. They gave money to his charities etc. And then he keeps denying it and blames everyone else, even though there were witnesses and victims and people who saw what he was doing. Totally different crimes of course! but the point is these things happen when everyone keeps quiet and shuts their mouth etc....
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10-11-12, 11:37 PM
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10-11-12, 11:47 PM
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Personally, I can forgive his doping, lying etc, but where I draw the line is his ugliness in trying to destroy people's lives, even when he knew they were being truthful. That takes the cake for me.
10-11-12, 11:50 PM
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10-12-12, 12:16 AM
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https://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...234/index.html
How does one test to see if a rug is doping or not?
How does one test to see if a rug is doping or not?
10-12-12, 12:35 AM
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I dont believe he doped but i dont know! Lance is one of my hero's in life. Not only as a cyclist, but as a person. He not only battled a deadly cancer, but he has helped millions of people in the fight against cancer. I respect him in every way possible. But, besides the fact. What do you think happened? Do you think that he was part of the "most sophisticated doping cheat of all time"? OR do you believe he is innocent? I think he is innocent. There were hundreds of tests put up to him from various agencies and none of them actually found any REAL physical evidence that he doped. I think it is complete bull **** that he was on a 15 year investigation and there were no laws that kicked in from it. 15 YEARS!!! could you imagine that hell for 15 years?? I am really pissed off that it was allowed to go on that long with absolutely no evidence, other than the fact that he was dedicated human being, following his dreams. He has also done so much for cancer research, all he wanted was to help people. I feel really bad for him. As an unbiased fan, i am siding with him and do i believe he is innocent. What do you all think?
And in reply to your final question, I think you are in complete denial.
10-12-12, 02:33 AM
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10-12-12, 02:49 AM
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10-12-12, 03:19 AM
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I am beginning to wonder if maybe it's time to embrace dopers. Many different sports over the last decade have had scandals like this. Baseball, football, American-rules football, etc. Even Olympic sport teams have suspicion at every event. At the end of the day, we want to see the batter hit harder, the pitcher throw faster, the cyclist ride quicker, etc. If we have the science, the technology, to enhance them for better performance (and thus entertainment) why should we shut them down? All it does is give the advantage to the people with better connections. Think of all the other cyclists, in this case, who lost out because they didn't want to get caught, knowing that they didn't have the resources to pull it off as well as the elite? It's time to stop giving the gold to the guys with the best connections. M.
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10-12-12, 04:15 AM
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Dear USADA:
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for exposing this massive fraud and soulless, selfish, vindictive common opportunist.
You're the best,
Alekhine
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for exposing this massive fraud and soulless, selfish, vindictive common opportunist.
You're the best,
Alekhine
10-12-12, 07:54 AM
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Prior to USADA's report, I was saying "USADA sucks". I've done a 180 since.
The fallout will be far reaching ... and it's just begun.
The fallout will be far reaching ... and it's just begun.
10-12-12, 08:03 AM
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Their webmaster is surely interested to hear what I think. 
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The report on the findings- as published in the New Times and L.A. Times and other major newspapers leave no doubt- WIDESPREAD, long time and frequent illegal substances and practiuces AT THE U.S. POSTAL TEAM level- all kinds of people involved and ready to testify.
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10-12-12, 08:30 AM
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Cool suggestion, bro!