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    Doping in pro cycling

    What are your thoughts on this?

    I am doing a paper for school on the topic, and found a lot of interesting views for both sides.
    What do you think about it.
    Should it be criminalized or how should it be treated, in your opinion?
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    drugs should be legal. well, "medical" marijuana anyways. recreational crack and meth, I don't know. Still on the fence about those.



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    The sport was better when they were doped to the gills. Just sayin

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    Doping is cheating. Send the cheaters to jail. They're still getting off easy. Seems that the pro teams are loosing sponsors when they get caught.

    No more drugs = more sponsors = more money in the sport = better for everyone.
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    doping is cheating where someone gains an advantage artificially that others don't have.

    Easy solution. Prescribe drugs to everyone. level the playing field. what are the chances of this being implemented?
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    Quote Originally Posted by coasting View Post
    doping is cheating where someone gains an advantage artificially that others don't have.

    Easy solution. Prescribe drugs to everyone. level the playing field. what are the chances of this being implemented?
    You actually believe that there i just a few "cheaters"?

    The playing field is level, every single sport is loaded with dopers, it's part of the game.

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    If you are writing a paper, have you been to www.bikepure.org?

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    Sometimes it is not a thing of who is cheating, it is a thing of who has a better doctor and it is not caught

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    Quote Originally Posted by str8jakett View Post
    If you are writing a paper, have you been to www.bikepure.org?
    Not yet....
    Thanks for the link though, definitely helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geist View Post
    That and here.

    In fact there it goes....
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    Quote Originally Posted by geist View Post
    That and here.

    In fact there it goes....
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    "Do they expect us to climb these mountains on nothing but mineral water?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComesATime71 View Post
    The sport was better when they were doped to the gills. Just sayin
    Psssst, they still are doped to the gills.
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    I'm happy to ignore the topic as long as a rider isn't stupid enough to get caught. But I don't have any illusions that the control system works even marginally well.

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    Doping doesn't work for everyone, ask David Millar & look at his Tour results honking EPO. "This beats training all winter" he was thinking, No!... you $hit ****, it doesn't.

    We have seen in the past clean riders beat the dopers.

    Extremely good source for you too look at;

    http://www.cycling4fans.de/index.php?id=4613

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    Quote Originally Posted by *****3nin.vend3t View Post

    We have seen in the past clean riders beat the dopers.
    LOL! Are you sure? I think we've seen in the past riders who didn't get caught beating the dopers. We may never know if they were clean or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlazingPedals View Post
    LOL! Are you sure? I think we've seen in the past riders who didn't get caught beating the dopers. We may never know if they were clean or not.
    There has been many cases of clean riders beating the dopers. Armstrong has been been beating them from pillar to post for years & I don't believe his '99 EPO case. A clean Jan Ullrich at 42% hematocrit in the '97 Tour beating a honking Riis by almost 30 minutes.

    Many cases.

    And don't forget, EPO is also proven to reduce athletic performance via dehydration, loss of electrolytes, death etc. What a load of $hit. Maybe you can ask David Millar.

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    Yeah, Millar about his World Championship...oh, wait he lost it because he was doping to win it.

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    Millars Tour De France results honking EPO... Showing off doping's awesomeness...

    2000; 62th
    2001; withdraws; stage 10
    2002; 68th
    2003; 55th
    2006;
    2007; 69th
    2008; 68th

    Incredible... I guess Armstrong was correct, it is the rider after all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by *****3nin.vend3t View Post
    There has been many cases of clean riders beating the dopers. Armstrong has been been beating them from pillar to post for years & I don't believe his '99 EPO case. A clean Jan Ullrich at 42% hematocrit in the '97 Tour beating a honking Riis by almost 30 minutes.

    Many cases.

    And don't forget, EPO is also proven to reduce athletic performance via dehydration, loss of electrolytes, death etc. What a load of $hit. Maybe you can ask David Millar.
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by *****3nin.vend3t View Post
    Millars Tour De France results honking EPO... Showing off doping's awesomeness...

    2000; 62th
    2001; withdraws; stage 10
    2002; 68th
    2003; 55th
    2006;
    2007; 69th
    2008; 68th

    Incredible... I guess Armstrong was correct, it is the rider after all...
    Are you always this ignorant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hipcheck5 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by *****3nin.vend3t View Post
    Millars Tour De France results honking EPO... Showing off doping's awesomeness...

    2000; 62th
    2001; withdraws; stage 10
    2002; 68th
    2003; 55th
    2006;
    2007; 69th
    2008; 68th

    Incredible... I guess Armstrong was correct, it is the rider after all...
    Are you always this ignorant?
    I'd say no; he's just a troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hipcheck5 View Post
    Are you always this ignorant?
    Just stating, Lets not put too much emphasis on EPO or performance enhancing drugs, there not all that. Past results/performances under the influence of honking, prove me correct. I am a troll but more of a realist. I've done EPO, its crap & can't make you a contender or Tour winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hipcheck5 View Post
    Are you always this ignorant?
    he is

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