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    Vino still with chances?

    DO you guys think vino and cadel have some chances now that the mountain stages are starting i believe tomorrow?

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    Anything's possible, eh?

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    Of course Vino has chance. Anyone who wears a jersey like this always has chance.

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    Oh yeah! Vino is known for making some breakaways. He can be real good but he can also lose time so it's aleast 50/50. Plus Sasstre (spelling?) really sucked on one of the previous stages with a short gentle climb. Shocked that he lost time on that stage!

    Cadel's best bet would bet to punch his main competitors in the nose! That dude is crazy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraman6970 View Post
    DO you guys think vino and cadel have some chances now that the mountain stages are starting i believe tomorrow?
    yes. duh.

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    Vino will not win. Can't climb the steep ones. He will keep it interesting though.

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    in my book, vino and tondo are the favorites to win the overall as of today.

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    Sastre (tailor in english) as a racer is not that good and i bet he will lose time tomorrow, cadel and vino teams need to to prepare something together or both will go down big time. It is amazing how cadel is still running practically by himself no matter in which team he is, and at this point wonder if it has something to do with his temper. Vino can't do much also wit h the team he has... Vino was in my book as a winner also...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraman6970 View Post
    Sastre (tailor in english) as a racer is not that good and i bet he will lose time tomorrow, cadel and vino teams need to to prepare something together or both will go down big time. It is amazing how cadel is still running practically by himself no matter in which team he is, and at this point wonder if it has something to do with his temper. Vino can't do much also wit h the team he has... Vino was in my book as a winner also...
    Vino's team is pretty much reduced to Grivko now. Maybe he and Evans should work together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraman6970 View Post
    Sastre (tailor in english) as a racer is not that good and i bet he will lose time tomorrow, cadel and vino teams need to to prepare something together or both will go down big time. It is amazing how cadel is still running practically by himself no matter in which team he is, and at this point wonder if it has something to do with his temper. Vino can't do much also wit h the team he has... Vino was in my book as a winner also...
    I don't think Evans temper has anything to do with it. The race has been long, hard, and chaotic. Bad weather, bad roads, bad crashes. Columbia has had trouble controlling sprints. None of the teams have do much of a job controlling attacks or the peloton. Cadel and Vino have to pretty stay near the front of the peloton and go with breakaways. Their teams are depleted and can't reel anyone in. But most of the teams are in that position. The Liquigas boys seem to be the best suited team for the rest of the race. The big mountains are coming. The GC is going to go topsy turvy again. If Vino or Cadel pull this out it will be seriously impressive.
    Everyone has a right to an opinion. However, this does not mean that one's opinion is right.

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    Don't have much hope for Vino or Cadel to win now. But both of them have showed some major form this spring between their classics wins and this Giro. Both should be a lot more formidable later this year when they have their full team supporting them later this year. Though obviously that's less likely for Vino because of Contador. But Cadel should benefit by having guys like Hincapie with him.

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    I doubt contador (accountant in english) will do something this year, last race he basically dropped because of allergies? Nobody knew he had allergies before... I believe the kid was at 100% and is going down big time, and now is time for vino to pull up something because he is going up. Coming back to the giro, vino and cadel together need to basically do the "cancellara" in at least 2 stages and drop everybody from their wheels. Liquigas wont let them go and the only way is to do a "Cancellara". Sastre doesnt have legs and the italians arent that good as years before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quel View Post
    But Cadel should benefit by having guys like Hincapie with him.
    Can't wait for the Tour!

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    1st day watching the giro on line and darn vino and cadel are not attaching at all, the good thing is that they will get like 1 minute off the leader.

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    ^^
    I think at the end of the stage Evans, Vino, Basso will get to the finish together.

    eta: or maybe not, 30 seconds is quite a bit to catch up, I thought he was closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrionKhan View Post
    I don't think Evans temper has anything to do with it. The race has been long, hard, and chaotic. Bad weather, bad roads, bad crashes.
    From the very first day of the race, the commentators have mentioned that Cadel has had big problems finding a team that suits him because of personality conflict. He has finally found a team that has been somewaht good for him but it's a new team with a pretty much all new young inexperienced riders unable to support Cadel, his team was shot before thee start of the race. So it's not the course or the race, it's the fact that others don't want to ride with him other than a bunch of newbs that need the opportunity.

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    Cadel fought a lot today, vino also. Lets see what happens because all of the guys now can climb and can TT big time. Even will win the TT or Vino, taking bets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraman6970 View Post
    I doubt contador (accountant in english) will do something this year, last race he basically dropped because of allergies? Nobody knew he had allergies before... ..


    He's been affected by allergies in spring races in years past. He was struggling with them two years ago when he won the Giro.

    Here's from a VeloNews interview with Antonio Colom last year:

    and the link

    VN: Do you continue with the treatments?

    TC: I still take the vaccinations and I will be for the rest of my life. Throughout the entire year
    I have to take pills, a vaccination once a month, and, if I have a crisis, I have a spray. It’s not
    to be able to breath better; it’s simply to be able to breath. When I look back, I wonder, how
    did I race before? I would just die. The sport directors always thought I was crazy because
    every time it rains or it’s cold, I’d happy. Why? Because, for the first part, half of the riders in
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    – boom! – I could go. Last year at the Giro, Contador is like me, very allergic, and every night
    we were at the TV, watching the weather with rain, we were like, yes! Rain!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraman6970 View Post
    Cadel fought a lot today, vino also. Lets see what happens because all of the guys now can climb and can TT big time. Even will win the TT or Vino, taking bets.
    Cool stage today! My hat's off to Basso, with a threat of another team captain, he doesn't sweat it or start bigtime drama, just lets the bike do the talking!

    Tuesday's uphill TT ought to be good!

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    One of the best stages ever... TOC final stage was not bad, the only problem is that Radio schack planned the trick too late, i noticed they wanted to do the same thing they did with LA years ago... popo waiting for Levi... then nothing happened. Between levi and zabriskie could have kill rogers, the problem is that none of them didnt want to lose the race, makes sense anyways. Even if they could have attached before horner could have had some better chance... Well is better say it that do it anyways... great race also but it needed more attaches in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraman6970 View Post
    ... Even if they could have attached before horner could have had some better chance... Well is better say it that do it anyways... great race also but it needed more attaches in my opinion.
    attached? attaches? Should we presume you mean attack?

    Vino's riding the Giro, btw...
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    True, wrong word choice... english makes non sense sometimes

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    Today was a good stage. Well as exciting as can get for a race! Lots of suffering and some suspense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
    Today was a good stage. Well as exciting as can get for a race! Lots of suffering and some suspense!
    The whole damn Giro has been nothing short of epic.

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    Awesome stage today. I don't want to answer this thread based on today. Watch and your answer will be obvious. I will say that given the 15K' of climbing, the GC contenders left it all on the road.

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