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    TDF 2010 stage 9 - Morzine-Avoriaz Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne 204.5 km, Tue. July 13

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    bring it! bid for victory on the aravis or the saisies followed with a crazy descent of the madeleine! the last 23 km's from the bottom
    of the descent is a long way to hold off those looking to bridge up though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooga-booga View Post
    ... the last 23 km's from the bottom
    of the descent is a long way to hold off those looking to bridge up though.
    I calculate 13 km's. There could be some desperate people looking to undo the results of that last climb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ooga-booga View Post
    bring it! bid for victory on the aravis or the saisies followed with a crazy descent of the madeleine! the last 23 km's from the bottom
    of the descent is a long way to hold off those looking to bridge up though.
    Yes 13km from he bottom (I live in St Jean de Maurienne), as flat as a pancake, wind at the back as usual in the afternoon ... And the descend is beautifull, steep and very very fast (Large & good quality road with few bends) ... The rider who will be on top 30seconds before the others will win the stage

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    duh! it's my new math! yeah 13 km is still going to be an eternity for
    those in the lead. could be a stage for vinoukourov forcing the other contenders
    to expend extra energy while protecting contador...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cedfromfrance View Post
    Yes 13km from he bottom (I live in St Jean de Maurienne), as flat as a pancake, wind at the back as usual in the afternoon ... And the descend is beautifull, steep and very very fast (Large & good quality road with few bends) ... The rider who will be on top 30seconds before the others will win the stage
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    What does the red HC mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rzombie1988 View Post
    What does the red HC mean?
    Hors catégorie - Beyond category. (really, really hard) It think the TdF is the only race that uses the HC classification. All the others use 1 for the hardest climbs.
    Everyone has a right to an opinion. However, this does not mean that one's opinion is right.

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    yeah come to think of it, no other grand tour uses the HC...
    Vino is a possibility...Basso looked good, not suffering too much.
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    God...did Vino design this stage? Can he resist the temptation to fly away from Contador in an attempt to claim glory for himself again? If he's not dropped on the way up, I don't see how he can resist. He coasted away from the pack on the descent of the Ramaz today...what if he rides the descent of the Madeleine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xfimpg View Post
    Salut Céderic!
    Par curiosité, où vas-tu te placer pour cette étape?
    I will be very close to the top of the Pass, because I will stay in St Francois Longchamps in the morning and will walk or cycle up in the afternoon. Should be fun ! Will u be around ?

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    Anyone think Armstrong will try to pull a Floyd-at-Morzine on Tuesday - with or without steroids?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grkeller View Post
    Anyone think Armstrong will try to pull a Floyd-at-Morzine on Tuesday - with or without steroids?
    No.

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    Did anyone think Floyd was going to pull a Floyd-at-Morzine?
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    Day after a rest day always produces some interesting legs on these hard climbs.

    Im thinking there will be some shakeup in the GC as a result.
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    Might be tough for a small guy like Sastre to hold on after summiting.
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    Basso looks good but isn't the descender that this stage is gonna need.
    I'm thinking Cadel will take all sorts of chances here.

    I think the Vuelta uses something similar to HC but for the life of me can't recall it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cedfromfrance View Post
    I will be very close to the top of the Pass, because I will stay in St Francois Longchamps in the morning and will walk or cycle up in the afternoon. Should be fun ! Will u be around ?
    No unfortunately not! But I thought it was cool to hear from someone who is going to be shouting "Allez! Allez!" from the sidelines. Take some pictures or video if you can! We'd love to see them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lotek View Post
    Basso looks good but isn't the descender that this stage is gonna need.
    Exactly what I was thinking. He needed Nibali to lead him down the mountains at the Giro this year. Maybe he's a pick for the Tourmalet.

    I like the idea of Sanchez, Evans, or (this is the Garmin fanboy in me coming out) Hesjedal. I know Hesjedal will probably crack, but if he made the summit with a group I'd like his chances on the descent!

    Edit: I also like Vino, because it would force the other contenders to chase, and take some pressure off of Contador. That would be fun to watch!

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    Very very tough day today. In any normal year I'd expect the big guys to ride conservatively and wait for the Pyrenees. But this year there have been so many attacks, and Schleck has so big an interest in putting time into Contador while he seems to have the advantage, that anything could happen. Likely to be very entertaining, with a few of the top ten suffering serious damage.
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    some nice names in the break today. go Jens.

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    I don't think it will be a top guy that wins unless there is an attack from the bottom of the climb. It is a big decsent that a desperate rider can make up time on. Cadel and Vino I believe both drop like a stone and I think Cadel wants time, but Schleck and Contador both don't need or want to take huge risks to descend. I expect Hesjedal to go down as fast as he can to catch back onto the pack if he is anywhere close to the front. Probably cannot pass the group unless there is not a big fight on that climb.

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    Vino is awesome.
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    I don't understand why Vino is attacking. Does Astana want Contador to bridge near the top of the climb? Or is Vino simply defecting?

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