TDF 2010 stage 3 - Wanze - Arenberg Porte du Hainaut 213 km, Tue. Jul 6
07-06-10, 01:48 PM
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So Popovych, Horner, Brajkovic, Leipheimer, and Kloden all finished 17 seconds behind Armstrong.
Popo helped Armstrong after the flat, and Armstrong left him after he was spent.
But where were Horner, Brajkovic, Leipheimer, and Kloden? Caught out by crashes?
Substantial contrast to Voight, OGrady, Cancerella, setting up A. Schleck.
Popo helped Armstrong after the flat, and Armstrong left him after he was spent.
But where were Horner, Brajkovic, Leipheimer, and Kloden? Caught out by crashes?
Substantial contrast to Voight, OGrady, Cancerella, setting up A. Schleck.
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So. What was the difference between todays stage and the carnage that was occuring vs. yesterdays carnage and a "need" for a neutralization??....oh yeah Andy wasnt the one on the ground, and team Cervelo wasnt about to allow that crap to happen again.
So happy for Thor getting the win today after he was denied sprint points by the antics of yesterday.
Tough luck for LA and the puncture.
Really awful for Chavanel. Figured he would hold yellow for a few more stages.
So happy for Thor getting the win today after he was denied sprint points by the antics of yesterday.
Tough luck for LA and the puncture.
Really awful for Chavanel. Figured he would hold yellow for a few more stages.
Merlin is dead on, what a great great day of racing.
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fwiw - Contador's problem was a broken spoke/rubbing wheel - not a flat.
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So todays ride was about the mechanical just as much as it was about the rider.
Is that a fair way to determine a stage?
Is that a fair way to determine a stage?
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In the old days riders would wear spare tires around their torsos and bring tubes, pumps, tools, and spare parts with them. These guys have it easy.
07-06-10, 04:20 PM
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Makes for exciting TV, but seems more random than a road race. The muddy stage in the Giro d'Italia this year seemed like a very challenging day on the bike -- the last 2 days of the TdF just seemed like random bombs going off.
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I'm ready for a drag race. Cav vs Robbie vs Allesandro vs Thor vs Oscar, etc. Give the sprinters their moments before we hit some mountains.
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No. But it is very refreshing to see flat stages have an impact on the GC. As opposed to the norm of watching a break away for 4 hours, only to be caught be the peloton within the last few km, then end in a field sprint. Don't get me wrong. I love sprints. But I like stages other than mountain top finishes and TT's having a significant effect on the GC.
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Stage 17 last year moved me from being a detractor of his, to having a relatively neutral attitude (albeit with great respect for his talent and determination).
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...Yesterday the moto spilling oil on the descent cause 60+riders to hit the deck, today was typical crashes and flats that happen on the cobbles. I don't really think they should have neutralized the field yesterday but I can understand why. Those who claimed the stage was so dangerous, like Horner, are wrong. Had the moto not gone down it would have been totally different.
Merlin is dead on, what a great great day of racing.
Merlin is dead on, what a great great day of racing.
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07-06-10, 05:57 PM
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Getting flats, crashing, wheel damage could all be viewed as random events, bad luck etc. Which it probably is, to some extent.
But the rider with the best bike handling skills will come out less thrashed in a spill, and the guy with the most cobble experience will choose the most favorable route thru the mess, therefore being kinder on his wheels and tires.
Cancellara is the current expert in this field. It showed today. Has Armstrong done many Spring Classics?
But the rider with the best bike handling skills will come out less thrashed in a spill, and the guy with the most cobble experience will choose the most favorable route thru the mess, therefore being kinder on his wheels and tires.
Cancellara is the current expert in this field. It showed today. Has Armstrong done many Spring Classics?
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Getting flats, crashing, wheel damage could all be viewed as random events, bad luck etc. Which it probably is, to some extent.
But the rider with the best bike handling skills will come out less thrashed in a spill, and the guy with the most cobble experience will choose the most favorable route thru the mess, therefore being kinder on his wheels and tires.
Cancellara is the current expert in this field. It showed today. Has Armstrong done many Spring Classics?
But the rider with the best bike handling skills will come out less thrashed in a spill, and the guy with the most cobble experience will choose the most favorable route thru the mess, therefore being kinder on his wheels and tires.
Cancellara is the current expert in this field. It showed today. Has Armstrong done many Spring Classics?
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Lost 55 seconds.
Where was all the RadioShack help? He only had Popo. Looks like Horner finished another 20 seconds down, but he wasn't with Armstrong after the flat, and no other Radio Shack riders appeared to be anywhere around Armstrong. Just scanning the Velonews results, everyone else on Radio Shack looks to have finished way back. Not the kind of team support Armstrong is used to.
Where was all the RadioShack help? He only had Popo. Looks like Horner finished another 20 seconds down, but he wasn't with Armstrong after the flat, and no other Radio Shack riders appeared to be anywhere around Armstrong. Just scanning the Velonews results, everyone else on Radio Shack looks to have finished way back. Not the kind of team support Armstrong is used to.
That wasn't cool. Where did LA get the new front wheel? Neutral support or a teammate or team car or what? He's extremely unlucky to have flatted and lost as much time as he did, but he's also very lucky to have only lost about a minute on the important guys and showed great strength to close down the gap a bit. That was a really frustrating stage. I think it was good for a single day race, but bad for a 3 week stage race. Pretty sure I don't like the cobbles being in the tour. I think it can have too big of an impact similar to the TTT, but with a lot more luck involved.
So Popovych, Horner, Brajkovic, Leipheimer, and Kloden all finished 17 seconds behind Armstrong.
Popo helped Armstrong after the flat, and Armstrong left him after he was spent.
But where were Horner, Brajkovic, Leipheimer, and Kloden? Caught out by crashes?
Substantial contrast to Voight, OGrady, Cancerella, setting up A. Schleck.
Popo helped Armstrong after the flat, and Armstrong left him after he was spent.
But where were Horner, Brajkovic, Leipheimer, and Kloden? Caught out by crashes?
Substantial contrast to Voight, OGrady, Cancerella, setting up A. Schleck.
according to Horner's blog
for everyone asking why it took so long for lance to get a wheel...well.
But, our luck ran out quickly. We first lost Kloden to a flat tire between those two sections of cobbles. Then, the bad luck continued as a crash happened at the front of the group, holding up most of the favorites. This is when the real chaos for Team RadioShack began. Lance, Popo and Jani managed to stay in touch with or just ahead of the Contador group, while Levi and I were held up a little longer.
"Up the road Lance had flatted. Rast had come up from behind and given Lance his wheel to get him going again, but he had already lost 45 valuable seconds.Jani and Levi were still in the Contador group when Levi also flatted, taking Jani’s wheel but still losing contact.
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