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Old 06-24-10, 08:32 PM   #1
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So what happens if Lance wins?

This year's TDF seems incredibly important for every GC contender OTHER than LA.

If LA doesn't win, nobody will think of him as any less of a rider.

But if he does win, everyone else is screwed. Anyone who wins in 2011 and beyond, as well as AC, Sastre, and Pereiro in 06-09, will be seen as guys who won only because LA either didn't compete or wasn't in shape.

That's my take on it at least.

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Old 06-24-10, 10:46 PM   #2
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Not this year or the next. 2012 is the end of the Mayan calendar...then...


Actually, I think there's a chance in hell he could be top 10 again. But a better chance he's going to get flayed in the mountains and drop out.

Regardless I'd like to see him do well as it's good for the sport, his foundation and us guys the same age.
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If Lance wins, looks for the North and South Poles to reverse polarity. Rivers will flow uphill. Great White Sharks will blockade ships carrying tofu. The 2018 World Cup will be hosted by the Seychelles. The Greek economy will lead the world out of recession. etc. Perhaps Jens will favor us with his thoughts on this at some point also.
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When Cavendish wins the Tour, Contador is going to be embarrassed also.
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I agree, top 5 will be extraordinary. I still think hes the man tho.
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everything (and more) that USAZorro said + pigs flying & hell freezing over...
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If Lance wins, the French will impound his body pending the outcome of extensive lab testing.
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Division by zero and the implosion of the universe.

But yeah, let's wait and see. If he wins or does well, I wouldn't be surprised to see a movie about Lance Armstrong.
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If Lance wins I'm dumping all my stocks and buying stock in Amgen and Roche.
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If he wins there will be a huge flash and the words 'Game Over' will appear in the heavens.
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If he wins there will be a huge flash and the words 'Game Over' will appear in the heavens.
AWESOME.

I think it could happen, but the only way would be Conta****** doing something really mentally stupid, which he's totally capable of.

I sort of hoped this thread would be about what happens if he wins now, and if people believe he's actually clean now.

I like LA but I have some doubts as to whether he was always clean. I do think the risk is too big, and the reward too little for him to be doping now. Nowadays, by losing he wins. By showing he still has it at 38, passing all the extra tests, it makes the years where he could have been doping more conceivable that he wasnt. Because if he can still come this close in a cleaner era, he possibly could have done it clean against a bunch of dirty cheats.
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Nowadays, by losing he wins. By showing he still has it at 38, passing all the extra tests, it makes the years where he could have been doping more conceivable that he wasnt.
Pretty much. Basically he has absolutely nothing to lose. Everyone else though has a lot to lose.

If he wins, it'll cheapen everyone else's victories for years.
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If he wins, then we know that his chemist has come up with a new cocktail.
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The chances of Lance winning the 2010 tour are about as good as starting a thread like this one and having no one reply.
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If he wins, then we know that his chemist has come up with a new cocktail.
I suspect somebody has. I'm not so sure this is a cleaner era -- just one where the druggists are slightly ahead of the drug detector technology for a little while.
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Actually, I think there's a chance in hell he could be top 10 again. But a better chance he's going to get flayed in the mountains and drop out.

Regardless I'd like to see him do well as it's good for the sport, his foundation and us guys the same age.
there actually was a mistake and the real end is 2220 or 2220 so here's to your apocalypse.

now if lance wins I'll believe in my chances of being in the TDF in a few years...
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...now if lance wins I'll believe in my chances of being in the TDF in a few years...
I'm a nine-time winner of the Tour. I once did so winning seventeen stages - eight times blowing by Cavendish in the final 200 meters - and past the age of 45 at that!!

Too bad "in my dreams" isn't recognized in the record books.
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I'm a nine-time winner of the Tour. I once did so winning seventeen stages - eight times blowing by Cavendish in the final 200 meters - and past the age of 45 at that!!

Too bad "in my dreams" isn't recognized in the record books.
lol white ftw. + I still believe I have some chances...
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AWESOME.

I think it could happen, but the only way would be Conta****** doing something really mentally stupid, which he's totally capable of.
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It could happen, but I think there will be other riders besides Conta****** finishing in front of him.
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If he wins in 2010 I will be convinced Armstrong is indeed Jesus as so many already believe.
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Likely he wil wait one or two years and then make a full confession of the high tech doping he has used to enhance his formidable talent.
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Should at least be interesting. His latest twitter update or facebook status update says: "Last hard ride before the TdF. Test on the Col de la Madone. Record time? No. Close to it? Yes. I'm ready."

Who knows how close he came to his record time but at the very least, it means he's in shape and probably as ready as he can be at this point. I think he'll come in at 4th or 5th overall myself, but we'll see.
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This year's TDF seems incredibly important for every GC contender OTHER than LA.

If LA doesn't win, nobody will think of him as any less of a rider.

But if he does win, everyone else is screwed. Anyone who wins in 2011 and beyond, as well as AC, Sastre, and Pereiro in 06-09, will be seen as guys who won only because LA either didn't compete or wasn't in shape.

That's my take on it at least.
Win Le Tour? I'm not holding my breath. Top 5? Top 10? Possible because I think that any top rider with a good team can do this. In 2009, the 8th, 9th and 10th place riders were over ten minutes back. In 2007, places 6 through 10 were over ten minutes back (hmmm, now who won the GC in 07 and 09???). But, yeah, I think Lance is a good enough rider that with smartly played tactics by him and Team RadioShack he could be in the top 10.

I do agree that as long as LA plays within the rules, there is really no result that would change opinions of his winning years (notice how I worded that?). If he were to blow up on a mountain, you could question whether it was smart for him to ride in 2010, but that wouldn't change 1999-2006.

But if by some turn of events, Lance does win the race I don't think that has any effect on riders who won it when he did not compete. And if you are suggesting that AC's win last year is somehow tainted becasue LA was not in shape, you are wrong. LA showed up to the start line. It was his job to be in shape. He came in third to AC & AS. End of story.
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everything (and more) that USAZorro said + pigs flying & hell freezing over...
Your right that pigs might fly, but Hell has already frozen over................It happen back in October of 2004 when the Soxs beat the Yankee's 4 stright after being down 3 - 0 .... I still have the front page of the NY post hanging in my office to prove it....


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