The Fed's and the End of Lance Armstrong
08-02-10, 09:46 PM
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i live in texas yet i think la's hick lawyer is not doing him any good. Using hick slogans "down in texas we says ______________" is fine when you're running for president, we expect buffoons in our elected officials, but he'd be wise to get a lawyer who sounds educated and legally astute.
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The news about Ball, at least as reported in the article seems odd. This article never really makes a point, except to throw a bunch of names out there, and take up space in an otherwise slow week. For example, the author never postulated why the Feds going after Ball has any relevance to the Armstrong case? Is this because Ball is connected with Tailwind sports? Is it because Ball ultimately was the supplier to Armstrong's team? Is it because the Feds are going after team management as opposed to riders themselves? This article felt like filler, and of not much use. I have a feeling that the reporter got the scoop of the Ball investigation, wanted to get the story out first, regardless of understanding whether this had ANY connection to the Armstrong investigation.
I am firmly in the camp that Armstrong used PED's, and I do not necessarily blame him. I do blame him however for then taking his success (through whatever seedy means necessary), and then marketing the myth of Lance to millions of unsuspecting Americans. In all seriousness, has there ever been an athlete whose fan base is comprised mostly of non-fans of the sport the athlete participated in? Or has there ever been a athlete whose overall popularity was driven more from his back story versus actual achievement in the field of play? My point is that Lance used his success in cycling to further build the Armstrong brand, and this brand is built on a house of cards.
I am firmly in the camp that Armstrong used PED's, and I do not necessarily blame him. I do blame him however for then taking his success (through whatever seedy means necessary), and then marketing the myth of Lance to millions of unsuspecting Americans. In all seriousness, has there ever been an athlete whose fan base is comprised mostly of non-fans of the sport the athlete participated in? Or has there ever been a athlete whose overall popularity was driven more from his back story versus actual achievement in the field of play? My point is that Lance used his success in cycling to further build the Armstrong brand, and this brand is built on a house of cards.
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Ball started a team (Rock Racing) that was willing to employ racers who had previously tested positive, and some of whom have since gotten in trouble again. Most notably among them, Tyler Hamilton - who was a teammate of Armstrong's back at USPS. Perhaps the investigators see this as a starting point - to use leverage to get testimony, to possibly get more leverage - there's no telling at this point where this will lead, but it does seem a logical starting point for those reasons.
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Can anyone offer us any insightful speculation on why the feds are so interested in Ball. It's obvious why they are interested in Tyler Hamilton.
Is it because Ball has questionable financial dealings and they can lean on him for information. Do they suspect that he is one of the inside drug distributors. The only thing is that most of Balls dealings seem to be in Mexico. My understanding is that most of the doping drugs come out of Belgium, Switzerland and Holland.
The other issue is that most of the drugs probably come from small labs that are illegal clones of drugs the big pharma companies manufacture. It is pretty well known that most of the big international pharma companies are illuminati controlled and very corrupt. And they may be pissed off that some small clandestine labs are stealing their profits.
We know that the FDA is in with big pharma, and wall street, which are illuminati controlled and or influenced industries.
One theory circulating the internet is that the illuminati wanted to use Armstrong as a political pawn. He was at one time thinking about political office. He's just the kind of person that the illuminati and new world order people want to control as a political pawn. They know they can get him elected and use him to further their plans. He may have snubbed them and now they are seeking revenge through the FDA.
Even though they are investigating Armstrong for misuse of federal funds, tax evasion and possible racketeering. Even if he is not found guilty of these crimes they can ruin his reputation in the mean time.
It also looks like USADA knows that he is dirty and want to get him.
Is it because Ball has questionable financial dealings and they can lean on him for information. Do they suspect that he is one of the inside drug distributors. The only thing is that most of Balls dealings seem to be in Mexico. My understanding is that most of the doping drugs come out of Belgium, Switzerland and Holland.
The other issue is that most of the drugs probably come from small labs that are illegal clones of drugs the big pharma companies manufacture. It is pretty well known that most of the big international pharma companies are illuminati controlled and very corrupt. And they may be pissed off that some small clandestine labs are stealing their profits.
We know that the FDA is in with big pharma, and wall street, which are illuminati controlled and or influenced industries.
One theory circulating the internet is that the illuminati wanted to use Armstrong as a political pawn. He was at one time thinking about political office. He's just the kind of person that the illuminati and new world order people want to control as a political pawn. They know they can get him elected and use him to further their plans. He may have snubbed them and now they are seeking revenge through the FDA.
Even though they are investigating Armstrong for misuse of federal funds, tax evasion and possible racketeering. Even if he is not found guilty of these crimes they can ruin his reputation in the mean time.
It also looks like USADA knows that he is dirty and want to get him.
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Ball started a team (Rock Racing) that was willing to employ racers who had previously tested positive, and some of whom have since gotten in trouble again. Most notably among them, Tyler Hamilton - who was a teammate of Armstrong's back at USPS. Perhaps the investigators see this as a starting point - to use leverage to get testimony, to possibly get more leverage - there's no telling at this point where this will lead, but it does seem a logical starting point for those reasons.
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Can anyone offer us any insightful speculation on why the feds are so interested in Ball. It's obvious why they are interested in Tyler Hamilton.
Is it because Ball has questionable financial dealings and they can lean on him for information. Do they suspect that he is one of the inside drug distributors. The only thing is that most of Balls dealings seem to be in Mexico. My understanding is that most of the doping drugs come out of Belgium, Switzerland and Holland.
The other issue is that most of the drugs probably come from small labs that are illegal clones of drugs the big pharma companies manufacture. It is pretty well known that most of the big international pharma companies are illuminati controlled and very corrupt. And they may be pissed off that some small clandestine labs are stealing their profits.
We know that the FDA is in with big pharma, and wall street, which are illuminati controlled and or influenced industries.
One theory circulating the internet is that the illuminati wanted to use Armstrong as a political pawn. He was at one time thinking about political office. He's just the kind of person that the illuminati and new world order people want to control as a political pawn. They know they can get him elected and use him to further their plans. He may have snubbed them and now they are seeking revenge through the FDA.
Even though they are investigating Armstrong for misuse of federal funds, tax evasion and possible racketeering. Even if he is not found guilty of these crimes they can ruin his reputation in the mean time.
It also looks like USADA knows that he is dirty and want to get him.
Is it because Ball has questionable financial dealings and they can lean on him for information. Do they suspect that he is one of the inside drug distributors. The only thing is that most of Balls dealings seem to be in Mexico. My understanding is that most of the doping drugs come out of Belgium, Switzerland and Holland.
The other issue is that most of the drugs probably come from small labs that are illegal clones of drugs the big pharma companies manufacture. It is pretty well known that most of the big international pharma companies are illuminati controlled and very corrupt. And they may be pissed off that some small clandestine labs are stealing their profits.
We know that the FDA is in with big pharma, and wall street, which are illuminati controlled and or influenced industries.
One theory circulating the internet is that the illuminati wanted to use Armstrong as a political pawn. He was at one time thinking about political office. He's just the kind of person that the illuminati and new world order people want to control as a political pawn. They know they can get him elected and use him to further their plans. He may have snubbed them and now they are seeking revenge through the FDA.
Even though they are investigating Armstrong for misuse of federal funds, tax evasion and possible racketeering. Even if he is not found guilty of these crimes they can ruin his reputation in the mean time.
It also looks like USADA knows that he is dirty and want to get him.
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Can anyone offer us any insightful speculation on why the feds are so interested in Ball. It's obvious why they are interested in Tyler Hamilton.
Is it because Ball has questionable financial dealings and they can lean on him for information. Do they suspect that he is one of the inside drug distributors. The only thing is that most of Balls dealings seem to be in Mexico. My understanding is that most of the doping drugs come out of Belgium, Switzerland and Holland.
The other issue is that most of the drugs probably come from small labs that are illegal clones of drugs the big pharma companies manufacture. It is pretty well known that most of the big international pharma companies are illuminati controlled and very corrupt. And they may be pissed off that some small clandestine labs are stealing their profits.
We know that the FDA is in with big pharma, and wall street, which are illuminati controlled and or influenced industries.
One theory circulating the internet is that the illuminati wanted to use Armstrong as a political pawn. He was at one time thinking about political office. He's just the kind of person that the illuminati and new world order people want to control as a political pawn. They know they can get him elected and use him to further their plans. He may have snubbed them and now they are seeking revenge through the FDA.
Even though they are investigating Armstrong for misuse of federal funds, tax evasion and possible racketeering. Even if he is not found guilty of these crimes they can ruin his reputation in the mean time.
It also looks like USADA knows that he is dirty and want to get him.
Is it because Ball has questionable financial dealings and they can lean on him for information. Do they suspect that he is one of the inside drug distributors. The only thing is that most of Balls dealings seem to be in Mexico. My understanding is that most of the doping drugs come out of Belgium, Switzerland and Holland.
The other issue is that most of the drugs probably come from small labs that are illegal clones of drugs the big pharma companies manufacture. It is pretty well known that most of the big international pharma companies are illuminati controlled and very corrupt. And they may be pissed off that some small clandestine labs are stealing their profits.
We know that the FDA is in with big pharma, and wall street, which are illuminati controlled and or influenced industries.
One theory circulating the internet is that the illuminati wanted to use Armstrong as a political pawn. He was at one time thinking about political office. He's just the kind of person that the illuminati and new world order people want to control as a political pawn. They know they can get him elected and use him to further their plans. He may have snubbed them and now they are seeking revenge through the FDA.
Even though they are investigating Armstrong for misuse of federal funds, tax evasion and possible racketeering. Even if he is not found guilty of these crimes they can ruin his reputation in the mean time.
It also looks like USADA knows that he is dirty and want to get him.
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By the way, I think Ball had the Feds on him from way back.
I once bought some chamois cream from a couple who were a soigneur team that followed the pro peloton all over the world, and the lady proceeded to tell me about a guy (who shall remain nameless, because of libel/slander laws) who is a bigtime dope dealer (cocaine and peds) on the pro circuit in Europe and America.
She told me this over two years ago!
I once bought some chamois cream from a couple who were a soigneur team that followed the pro peloton all over the world, and the lady proceeded to tell me about a guy (who shall remain nameless, because of libel/slander laws) who is a bigtime dope dealer (cocaine and peds) on the pro circuit in Europe and America.
She told me this over two years ago!
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Can anyone offer us any insightful speculation on why the feds are so interested in Ball. It's obvious why they are interested in Tyler Hamilton.
Is it because Ball has questionable financial dealings and they can lean on him for information. Do they suspect that he is one of the inside drug distributors. The only thing is that most of Balls dealings seem to be in Mexico. My understanding is that most of the doping drugs come out of Belgium, Switzerland and Holland.
The other issue is that most of the drugs probably come from small labs that are illegal clones of drugs the big pharma companies manufacture. It is pretty well known that most of the big international pharma companies are illuminati controlled and very corrupt. And they may be pissed off that some small clandestine labs are stealing their profits.
We know that the FDA is in with big pharma, and wall street, which are illuminati controlled and or influenced industries.
One theory circulating the internet is that the illuminati wanted to use Armstrong as a political pawn. He was at one time thinking about political office. He's just the kind of person that the illuminati and new world order people want to control as a political pawn. They know they can get him elected and use him to further their plans. He may have snubbed them and now they are seeking revenge through the FDA.
Even though they are investigating Armstrong for misuse of federal funds, tax evasion and possible racketeering. Even if he is not found guilty of these crimes they can ruin his reputation in the mean time.
It also looks like USADA knows that he is dirty and want to get him.
Is it because Ball has questionable financial dealings and they can lean on him for information. Do they suspect that he is one of the inside drug distributors. The only thing is that most of Balls dealings seem to be in Mexico. My understanding is that most of the doping drugs come out of Belgium, Switzerland and Holland.
The other issue is that most of the drugs probably come from small labs that are illegal clones of drugs the big pharma companies manufacture. It is pretty well known that most of the big international pharma companies are illuminati controlled and very corrupt. And they may be pissed off that some small clandestine labs are stealing their profits.
We know that the FDA is in with big pharma, and wall street, which are illuminati controlled and or influenced industries.
One theory circulating the internet is that the illuminati wanted to use Armstrong as a political pawn. He was at one time thinking about political office. He's just the kind of person that the illuminati and new world order people want to control as a political pawn. They know they can get him elected and use him to further their plans. He may have snubbed them and now they are seeking revenge through the FDA.
Even though they are investigating Armstrong for misuse of federal funds, tax evasion and possible racketeering. Even if he is not found guilty of these crimes they can ruin his reputation in the mean time.
It also looks like USADA knows that he is dirty and want to get him.
Do you honestly think that a bunch of monkeys that have believed Armstrong won 7 Tours on nothing but hard work are going to have any comprehension of what you are talking about? You honestly think that a forum full of people who think that LA never took drugs are going to have the perception of whats really happening behind the curtain?
Last year I came here and tried to enlighten people about LA and his doping, yet the thickness of ignorance was so impenetrable. I told people it was gonna come down on him, without fail, and again, people on this forum responded with nothing but idiocy.
You are better off with a soap box in front of Times Square old friend.
You are preaching in a village, one of which is full of village idiots.
They are not to blame though, they may accuse you of wearing tin foil, but they are drinking the sugared water cool aid of mass media manipulation..... sad.
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How many of those have ties to the people Landis has made allegations about? Discounting the brief period that Basso rode for Discovery, I think the answer is none. Of those, only Garmin is U.S. based, which means the other teams are pretty much outside of the jurisdiction of the Feds - and Vaughters seems quite serious about supporting anti-doping efforts, so I doubt that's a fruitful field for the Feds.
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The news about Ball, at least as reported in the article seems odd. This article never really makes a point, except to throw a bunch of names out there, and take up space in an otherwise slow week. For example, the author never postulated why the Feds going after Ball has any relevance to the Armstrong case? Is this because Ball is connected with Tailwind sports? Is it because Ball ultimately was the supplier to Armstrong's team? Is it because the Feds are going after team management as opposed to riders themselves? This article felt like filler, and of not much use. I have a feeling that the reporter got the scoop of the Ball investigation, wanted to get the story out first, regardless of understanding whether this had ANY connection to the Armstrong investigation.
I am firmly in the camp that Armstrong used PED's, and I do not necessarily blame him. I do blame him however for then taking his success (through whatever seedy means necessary), and then marketing the myth of Lance to millions of unsuspecting Americans. In all seriousness, has there ever been an athlete whose fan base is comprised mostly of non-fans of the sport the athlete participated in? Or has there ever been a athlete whose overall popularity was driven more from his back story versus actual achievement in the field of play? My point is that Lance used his success in cycling to further build the Armstrong brand, and this brand is built on a house of cards.
I am firmly in the camp that Armstrong used PED's, and I do not necessarily blame him. I do blame him however for then taking his success (through whatever seedy means necessary), and then marketing the myth of Lance to millions of unsuspecting Americans. In all seriousness, has there ever been an athlete whose fan base is comprised mostly of non-fans of the sport the athlete participated in? Or has there ever been a athlete whose overall popularity was driven more from his back story versus actual achievement in the field of play? My point is that Lance used his success in cycling to further build the Armstrong brand, and this brand is built on a house of cards.
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Not really, although it sound preposterous. I did not claim it to be true only a theory that is interesting. The average person perceives things based on a totally media controlled perception of reality and they know nothing of what really is going on in the depths of the secret societies of the world.
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Seriously?
Do you honestly think that a bunch of monkeys that have believed Armstrong won 7 Tours on nothing but hard work are going to have any comprehension of what you are talking about? You honestly think that a forum full of people who think that LA never took drugs are going to have the perception of whats really happening behind the curtain?
Last year I came here and tried to enlighten people about LA and his doping, yet the thickness of ignorance was so impenetrable. I told people it was gonna come down on him, without fail, and again, people on this forum responded with nothing but idiocy.
You are better off with a soap box in front of Times Square old friend.
You are preaching in a village, one of which is full of village idiots.
They are not to blame though, they may accuse you of wearing tin foil, but they are drinking the sugared water cool aid of mass media manipulation..... sad.
Do you honestly think that a bunch of monkeys that have believed Armstrong won 7 Tours on nothing but hard work are going to have any comprehension of what you are talking about? You honestly think that a forum full of people who think that LA never took drugs are going to have the perception of whats really happening behind the curtain?
Last year I came here and tried to enlighten people about LA and his doping, yet the thickness of ignorance was so impenetrable. I told people it was gonna come down on him, without fail, and again, people on this forum responded with nothing but idiocy.
You are better off with a soap box in front of Times Square old friend.
You are preaching in a village, one of which is full of village idiots.
They are not to blame though, they may accuse you of wearing tin foil, but they are drinking the sugared water cool aid of mass media manipulation..... sad.
Of course you are completely right. Every word you speak is true. I don't have false hopes of converting the masses and if some think I am a little crazy. That's OK to. After all it's only a somewhat more than plausible theory. But sometimes I ramble on.
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By the way, I think Ball had the Feds on him from way back.
I once bought some chamois cream from a couple who were a soigneur team that followed the pro peloton all over the world, and the lady proceeded to tell me about a guy (who shall remain nameless, because of libel/slander laws) who is a bigtime dope dealer (cocaine and peds) on the pro circuit in Europe and America.
She told me this over two years ago!
I once bought some chamois cream from a couple who were a soigneur team that followed the pro peloton all over the world, and the lady proceeded to tell me about a guy (who shall remain nameless, because of libel/slander laws) who is a bigtime dope dealer (cocaine and peds) on the pro circuit in Europe and America.
She told me this over two years ago!
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Well I heard the Illuminati was behind AS's chain mishap, they were paying him back for resisting their control. They want to use him as a pawn in their quest for global domination. Franks signed on yet Andy continues to resist. Another "chain mishap" or two and Andy will be their pawn for life. Did you notice ALL those chem-trails over the TdF route? Of course, more evidence of the Illuminati's presence and plot for that matter.
Let me compliment you on your nice use of sarcasm. Although it shows little real insight it is actually quite good.
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I don't think that they would be ready for the heavy stuff. It's quite scary. I have been studying this stuff long enough that the amusing aspects are gone.
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Sounds like a few too many Dan Brown novels. cooker is right though. Those musings are fodder for P&R.
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Wow! Now I've seen everything. A discussion on Lance doping and its tie-in to the illuminati. I need to check on this thread more often. I thought it'd be boring!