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    Do *not* break up with your girlfriend unless you purge the data from the hard drive

    From Cycling News: some of the data used to issue a lifetime ban against Michael O'Bee was retrieved from a hard drive on a computer he shared with his girlfirend. Story makes it seems that she handed over the data voluntarily; no court order or subpoena was neeed.


    Ruh-oh.

    "The correspondence, from a personal email account O’Bee acknowledged was his, was used as non-analytical evidence in USADA charges that centered around his May 20, 2009, positive out-of-competition test for synthetic EPO.

    "In late 2008 O’Bee’s former girlfriend, Suzanne Johnson, turned over records of the incriminating emails to USADA from a jointly owned computer, providing evidence that he had purchased performance-enhancing drugs over the Internet and then corresponded about the use of those drugs.

    "According to the AAA panel decision, O’Bee’s romantic relationship with Johnson ended in December 2005, but resumed, for a short time, from February to September 2008 before ending badly, with Johnson obtaining a protection order prohibiting O’Bee from returning to their residence following the 2008 Tour of Missouri.

    "The emails, and other computer-based documents, were forensically retrieved from computer disks Johnson provided to USADA in late October or early November 2008. O’Bee denied having composed or sent the incriminating emails, suggesting that Johnson had fabricated or altered them. "

    Here's the full story:

    http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/...medium=twitter

    I thought the accusation that the former girlfriend had fabricated the data was interesting. She's also probably the one who sent out to Spain for steaks.

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    And they say women don't get involved enough in sports.

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    now we see why he broke up with her...

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    And deleting is not enough. You can delete everything and the data is still there until it's overwritten.

    Destory the hard drive.

    [Legal disclaimer: before you are aware of any pending or threatened litigation, or any request to preserve or produce the information, and only in the ordinary course of your document retention, and IT maintenence policies.]
    You could fall off a cliff and die.
    You could get lost and die.
    You could hit a tree and die.
    OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.

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    Nice cya there

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    ouch.

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    "b!tch set me up!"

    people often ask me what is the best way to delete a hard drive. when i say "with a hammer" - i get puzzled looks.
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    Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
    Cyclists of the world, unite! You have nothing to lube but your chains!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBRDude View Post
    now we see why he broke up with her...
    Haha, no trust there! Good thing he got out with is penis still attached. Seriously though, flashing warning sign when gf is allover your cellphone and computer looking through your ****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mustachiod View Post
    "b!tch set me up!"

    people often ask me what is the best way to delete a hard drive. when i say "with a hammer" - i get puzzled looks.
    I put one in a fireplace for awhile, started a fire over it, and then dug out the pieces the next day after the ashes had cooled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BengeBoy View Post
    I put one in a fireplace for awhile, started a fire over it, and then dug out the pieces the next day after the ashes had cooled.
    You've got to get it really hot!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mustachiod View Post
    "b!tch set me up!"

    people often ask me what is the best way to delete a hard drive. when i say "with a hammer" - i get puzzled looks.
    As an IT Security guy, the only thing that will destroy a hard drive to make it unrecoverable is fire. Anything else can be recovered. Some US Gov't agencies have tools that can recover about anything, even as far back as formatting your hard drive 16 times.
    So burn that thing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
    And deleting is not enough. You can delete everything and the data is still there until it's overwritten.

    Destory the hard drive.

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    A single overwrite may not be enough. It can be possible to determine the previous value of each byte. Costly, but possible. After about 5 overwrites it is no longer possible (last time I heard).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith99 View Post
    A single overwrite may not be enough. It can be possible to determine the previous value of each byte. Costly, but possible. After about 5 overwrites it is no longer possible (last time I heard).
    I believe the DOD standard is 7 overwrites, the European standard is I believe now 20. And if it is an email you might as well not bother since they are not secure, and generally there is one residing on some server someplace. The key is not formatting it is overwriting preferably with random data I believe.

    Also if you have stuff you don't want people to find I would start be putting it on an encrypted part of the drive, with only a password you know. Then when you want to get rid of it comes all the overwrites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BengeBoy View Post
    I put one in a fireplace for awhile, started a fire over it, and then dug out the pieces the next day after the ashes had cooled.
    Geez louise, what in the hell are you guys looking up that you need to destroy so badly?
    I've got your restraining order right here. [grabs crotch] Restrain this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MangoPumpkin View Post
    Geez louise, what in the hell are you guys looking up that you need to destroy so badly?
    Downloaded threads from Bikeforums.net.

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    my favorite story along these lines was the bug report for a browser that was submitted by an ex-wife/girlfriend. She became an ex when she discovered her SO regularly logged into dating sites. The bug was that she was able to get his login information even though she was not logged into his account.

    I would think that your internet performance-enhancing-drug buying would be relatively safe from anyone other than law enforcement if you used one of the secure file deletion programs. Maybe he didn't even bother to delete anything at all.

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