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Old 06-14-11, 10:34 AM   #1
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Tour de Suisse - Stage 3 Awesome footage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7VT-...&feature=feedf
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That is great footage. 15 minutes of it, not just a finishing sprint.
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The last descent was really confusing to me, and Phil and Bob Roll didn't know what the hell was going on either. At 2:30 Sagan is just ahead of Cunego, they cut to a different shot, and Sagan is gone. Then at 2:55 Sagan comes into the screen WAY behind Cunego. Then at 7:15 Cunego passes a Liquigas rider pulling off the side of the road that looks really dirty, like he crashed.

The cyclingnews report contains no mention of another Liquigas rider up there, so I'm left to guess Sagan somehow passed Cunego without being caught on video, even though there's a moto right behind Cunego the entire descent, somehow got very dirty, stopped for no apparent reason, let Cunego pass, then caught up and won.

Very weird... Anybody?
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The last descent was really confusing to me, and Phil and Bob Roll didn't know what the hell was going on either. At 2:30 Sagan is just ahead of Cunego, they cut to a different shot, and Sagan is gone. Then at 2:55 Sagan comes into the screen WAY behind Cunego. Then at 7:15 Cunego passes a Liquigas rider pulling off the side of the road that looks really dirty, like he crashed.

The cyclingnews report contains no mention of another Liquigas rider up there, so I'm left to guess Sagan somehow passed Cunego without being caught on video, even though there's a moto right behind Cunego the entire descent, somehow got very dirty, stopped for no apparent reason, let Cunego pass, then caught up and won.

Very weird... Anybody?
At 2:00 the video shows the list of riders over the Grosse Scheidegg 1.Cunego 2.Ten Dam 3.Salerno 4.Fuglsang 5. Sagan
At 2:10 you see Sagan (liquigas) overtaking Ten Dam (Rabobank) on the descent.(moto camera)
At 2:20 The video changes to the helicopter and you see Cunego (Lampre) leading the descent.
At 2:55 The heli shot widens to show Cunego leading Sagan on the descent.
At 3:27 It's back with the moto and you see the moto first passing Ten Dam then at 3:55 it passes Sagan on the straight before accelerating to catch up with Cunego who comes into view at 4:07

I think what is confusing you and the American announcers is the rear view of Ten Dam looks like Cunego because you're seeing it from a following moto and you can only see the shorts of the rider which are blue for both Lampre (Cunego) and Robobank (Ten Dam).

It's natural to think the moto is showing the same rider as the heli but here the moto has trouble keeping up with a very fast descending Cunego whereas the heli hasn't that problem.

At 7:15 the video cuts to Salerno nr.128 (Liquigas) pulling up with what looks like a puncture as he goes under the 6km to go banner and being passed by some unknown rider. Note Cunego at this point had already gone under the banner about 20sec previously.

Hope it's clear now.

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Old 06-15-11, 01:30 PM   #5
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Thanks. I was guessing EXACTLY what you said, but neither the TV coverage or the cyclingnews race report that I read mentioned Salerno being up front anywhere past the apex of the HC climb. Off to watch today's stage, or go ride...
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