Stage 10: Tuesday, July 12 158 km Aurillac → Carmaux
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looks like a potentially 'fun' stage. relatively short & undulating. could bring some excitement between the massif central and the pyrenees. tailor-made for someone that's had some bad luck the first week or so to gain some time back...
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Thor called...he wants his yellow jersey back.
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Unfortunately I have a meeting tomorrow and won't be able to watch this stage live.
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I'll go with David Moncoutie in a breakaway. The French have to win a stage sooner or later.
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it looks like a stage for cavendish or Thor...
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Originally Posted by dstrong
(Post 12914126)
Thor called...he wants his yellow jersey back.
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he's not in it for the overall, but I'm sure he'd like a stage win...and he does get to wear his rainbow jersey.
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From Levi's facebook page.
Levi Leipheimer Deluge of rain and hail just before the start of stage 10. #TdF |
Huge win for Greipel. Let's renew that Cav/Greipel rivalry.
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The Vanilla Gorilla is FAST! I'd really like to know how many watts he put down in that final sprint compared to Cav. He gets MUCH less aero, and was going faster, so it's gotta be a huge number. He's also 20 lbs. heavier than Cav, although that's not a big deal when your leadout is already going 40mph.
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Good throw for Greipel. It'll be interesting to see what kind of sheeeeet Cav will be talking about André.
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Originally Posted by DXchulo
(Post 12916516)
Huge win for Greipel. Let's renew that Cav/Greipel rivalry.
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I believe Cavendish once said "There's no chance he's coming to a bike race that I'm in. Me on bad form is still better than him." OOOPPPPSS.
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HTC used up too many of their guys getting Cavendish over the climbs. They should really have adjusted their tactics after that, they didn't have the numbers to make a train. So Cavendish was exposed too early, and Griepel was able to come off his wheel rather than the other way around.
Much more entertaining stage than I was expecting. Bodes well for the rest of the tour, especially as far as the green jersey is concerned. |
Two additions to the list today brings it to twenty, with 178 still in the race.
Kloden looks like he's in serious pain though. Abandoners to date: Van de Walle.............DNF 4 Kern.....................DNS 5 Brajkovic................DNF 5 Murillo..................DNS 6 Kiryienka................HDD 6 Boonen...................DNF 7 Wiggins..................DNF 7 Pauriol..................DNF 7 Horner...................DNS 8 Intxausti................DNF 8 Garate...................DNS 9 Poels....................DNF 9 Brutt....................DNF 9 Vinokourov...............DNF 9 Zabriskie................DNF 9 Willems..................DNF 9 Van Den Broeck...........DNF 9 Txurruka.................DNF 9 Kolobnev.................DNS 10 Popovych.................DNS 10 |
Cav did very well to be there at the finnish, I bet he almost wishes he had not botherd!
Greipel passed him on stage 7 even with an htc lead out, but the line was just a bit to far away. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzQhi...tailpage#t=50s |
I think the true questions is: Without the lead-out train how good is Cavendish?
He's one of the best, but as an individual he just isn't dominant. I'd give him top speed, but it seems to me the likes of Goss and Griepel have him beat in the Acceleration department. Put Cav on a team who doesn't surround him and he wouldn't be the same. I'm sure I'll catch flack for this but thats my opinion and I'm sticking to it. |
Originally Posted by wxduff
(Post 12917003)
I think the true questions is: Without the lead-out train how good is Cavendish?
He's one of the best, but as an individual he just isn't dominant. I'd give him top speed, but it seems to me the likes of Goss and Griepel have him beat in the Acceleration department. Put Cav on a team who doesn't surround him and he wouldn't be the same. I'm sure I'll catch flack for this but thats my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Tomorrow should be very interesting. There's no reason the HTC train shouldn't be there at the end and we'll get to see what Greipel can do against it. As mentioned, he looked strong in stage 7 but his positioning wasn't great and he had to go too early. I hope Greipel puts it together again tomorrow and we see a nice head-to-head battle. |
Originally Posted by wxduff
(Post 12917003)
I think the true questions is: Without the lead-out train how good is Cavendish?
He's one of the best, but as an individual he just isn't dominant. I'd give him top speed, but it seems to me the likes of Goss and Griepel have him beat in the Acceleration department. Put Cav on a team who doesn't surround him and he wouldn't be the same. I'm sure I'll catch flack for this but thats my opinion and I'm sticking to it. |
Tony Martin is an ass for trying to get Voeckler to pull in front of him, next to last in the breakaway. If the people that go in breaks with Voeckler actually DID SOME WORK, those breaks could work very well, ESPECIALLY when Philippe Gilbert is there to share the work.
That said, Gilbert's move was made REALLY far from the line, but I'm wondering if that was planned, with Greipel as the backup plan. It's a shame we won't see what Greipel could do with a good leadout train. With Cav nipping at his heels in the points competition, Gilbert will want to go for points rather than lead Greipel out, and there aren't too many other strong men on the team. |
That's funny. I was thinking that Martin's moved seemed quite smart. Cav was their best shot at a win, not Martin. From Martin's standpoint, he can ride that train to the finish if it lasts, and sprint with fresh legs. If they get caught, meh. Cavendish likely wins anyway.
It would have been sweet to see a break with green and yellow survive though. |
Originally Posted by TommyL
(Post 12918495)
That's funny. I was thinking that Martin's moved seemed quite smart. Cav was their best shot at a win, not Martin. From Martin's standpoint, he can ride that train to the finish if it lasts, and sprint with fresh legs. If they get caught, meh. Cavendish likely wins anyway.
It would have been sweet to see a break with green and yellow survive though. |
Gilbert move was planned htc had to hunt him down, while Greipel sat protected,htc was consuming loads energy from far out, The lotto team got Greippel there and he did the rest. Great strategy great riding
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The move dropped a lot of the other sprinters that didn't have much support like ferrar and pettachi. It was a planned move. I was however rooting for that break to make it. I love bunch sprints but I also love seeing the late break win. I guess anything but the long break makes me happy.
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