Advertise on Bikeforums.net



User Tag List

Results 1 to 15 of 15
  1. #1
    OM boy cyclezen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Goleta CA
    My Bikes
    a bunch
    Posts
    3,011
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    2011 World Championships Men's Road Race - are you Kiddin me ????

    just had a look at the WC road course in Denmark (I shoulda expected as much)

    it has no more than a couple 20 meter vertical blips - how awful!
    what a JOKE!
    at least Geelong had a 100 meter hill followed by a 50 meter

    no wonder all the sprinters are salivating...
    WHAT A JOKE!
    Golden rose, the color of the dream I had
    Not too long ago
    A misty blue and the lillac too
    A never to grow old

  2. #2
    Professional Fuss-Budget Bacciagalupe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    6,384
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    You were expecting Tourmalet?

    IIRC the Worlds typically favors the sprinters anyway.

  3. #3
    Travelling hopefully chasm54's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Uncertain
    Posts
    7,090
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Cavendish, if he's fit enough to start.
    There have been many days when I haven't felt like riding, but there has never been a day when I was sorry I rode.

  4. #4
    OM boy cyclezen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Goleta CA
    My Bikes
    a bunch
    Posts
    3,011
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    'favors' might be leaning towards sprinters, but certainly not climbers...

    but most every WC course I've paid attention to, since the '74 course in Montreal (EddyM 1st, George Mount 6th) has at least a tough 100 meter hill to sort out the field.
    same as the coming Grand Prix Cycliste de Montreal on September 11
    I'm sure I've missed a bunch of em, but most favor the overall roadie, like Gilbert, Armstrong, Merckx, Evans, ...
    the 2011 course is a joke
    Golden rose, the color of the dream I had
    Not too long ago
    A misty blue and the lillac too
    A never to grow old

  5. #5
    Upgrading my engine DXchulo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Reno
    Posts
    5,675
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)


    There's a longer video of someone driving the course. The main obstacle is the road furniture.

    I don't mind a flat course now and then as long as they mix it up regularly. So many guys are motivated for the worlds that it should be an interesting race with plenty of attacks either way.
    centuryperweek.blogspot.com

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Golden, CO
    Posts
    912
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I agree with the philosophy that a Worlds course should favor a well-rounded rider, with the nod to someone who can contest a sprint. It's about the spirit of what a real road race should be. Likely a bunch sprint, but encouraging enough for the strongmen to launch a kamikaze attack. There's a slight bump at the finish line in Denmark, and I really hope some courageous masochist can win with a late break so it seems like they really earned it against big odds.

    Thor did the jersey proud this year. Gotta love a big dude that can win a sprint, but has the balls to contest and win a mountain stage in the Tour de France. That's my favorite kind of rider.

  7. #7
    Senior Member Keith99's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    5,806
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by cyclezen View Post
    'favors' might be leaning towards sprinters, but certainly not climbers...

    but most every WC course I've paid attention to, since the '74 course in Montreal (EddyM 1st, George Mount 6th) has at least a tough 100 meter hill to sort out the field.
    same as the coming Grand Prix Cycliste de Montreal on September 11
    I'm sure I've missed a bunch of em, but most favor the overall roadie, like Gilbert, Armstrong, Merckx, Evans, ...
    the 2011 course is a joke
    Didn't Hinault get a win on a course that did the same loop over a dozen times with a pretty nasty climb in it?

  8. #8
    cycling fanatic Ken Brown's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Toronto, Canada
    My Bikes
    Cannondale T800
    Posts
    1,080
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    It's pretty flat around Copenhagen, so there is no alternative. I presume they knew that when they awarded to championship.

  9. #9
    Professional Fuss-Budget Bacciagalupe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    6,384
    Mentioned
    4 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by cyclezen View Post
    the 2011 course is a joke
    So what you're saying is, you don't want Cavendish to win. Got it.

  10. #10
    OM boy cyclezen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Goleta CA
    My Bikes
    a bunch
    Posts
    3,011
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by Bacciagalupe View Post
    So what you're saying is, you don't want Cavendish to win. Got it.
    actually, this is the WC, not some 1 day classic - so it would be nice to have all elements of a road race in it, hills, technical and even potential for prevalent winds which might call for echeloning.
    If a sprinter wins while having covered a serious road course, so be it.
    Cav did win Mil-SanRemo on '09, which is certainly way more serious and technical than this course, and at 298 km, another 32 km longer...

    This might be a juniors road course...

    Anyone would be a fool to attempt any break before the last 50 k of this race. Which means we can almost be 90% certain that this will end in a mass sprint. Hardly the test of the World's best road racing cyclist.

    This course should never have been awarded.

    As for Cav, this is not pro team racing, it is national team, so it will be every man for himself - and himself better be ready to ride all 266 k, and then slice and dice with the rest, cause he ain;t breakin away. If he remembers how its done, he might have a chance. Otherwise it'll only be a nice day's ride in the flatlands for him.
    Golden rose, the color of the dream I had
    Not too long ago
    A misty blue and the lillac too
    A never to grow old

  11. #11
    Travelling hopefully chasm54's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Uncertain
    Posts
    7,090
    Mentioned
    11 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by cyclezen View Post
    As for Cav, this is not pro team racing, it is national team, so it will be every man for himself - and himself better be ready to ride all 266 k, and then slice and dice with the rest, cause he ain;t breakin away. If he remembers how its done, he might have a chance. Otherwise it'll only be a nice day's ride in the flatlands for him.
    It certainly won't be every man for himself. The British team has been picked around Cavendish, it's essentially a Sky procycling lead-out team plus David Millar, who is Cav's friend and training partner.
    There have been many days when I haven't felt like riding, but there has never been a day when I was sorry I rode.

  12. #12
    OM boy cyclezen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Goleta CA
    My Bikes
    a bunch
    Posts
    3,011
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Quote Originally Posted by chasm54 View Post
    It certainly won't be every man for himself. The British team has been picked around Cavendish, it's essentially a Sky procycling lead-out team plus David Millar, who is Cav's friend and training partner.
    sad
    sad that Cav is their only hope (/ princess Lea)

    would be really sad if they don;t meet muster

    I'll watch the last 7 K highlight reel on steephill and call it done.
    Golden rose, the color of the dream I had
    Not too long ago
    A misty blue and the lillac too
    A never to grow old

  13. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    7,819
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    This thing will be super fast, up and downs can kill a sprinter so probably we are talking that the ones that will do good in here will be super strong all arounder sprinters, even cancellara can do good in here. Cav wont do a thing in here but the spaniards might.

  14. #14
    starting pistol means war YMCA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    east coast
    My Bikes
    Cervelo R3
    Posts
    3,092
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The last true "sprinters" course was in Belgium 2002.
    Cipo won from a group of only 30 riders.
    The Italians had drilled the day to a 29+mph avg pace for 5.5 hrs.
    I wouldn't say flat courses make less challenge.
    If the teams are motivated, the weak get broken.
    And don't forget about crosswinds.
    Hours of gutter action can quite often be harder than anything a promoter can throw at you.

  15. #15
    Upgrading my engine DXchulo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Reno
    Posts
    5,675
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Anything can happen, that's for sure. Everybody is motivated to win and the teams aren't so used to working together. I wouldn't be shocked if it's not a big field sprint.
    centuryperweek.blogspot.com

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •