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Old 02-06-12, 06:52 AM   #1
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Contador banned two years!

Andy gets his TDF win

http://www.itv.com/tourdefrance/2011..._120602CYCLING
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Old 02-06-12, 06:55 AM   #2
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It is the Tour the one to be banned for this. Poor chap. Go Contador!.
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"I ate tainted meat!" C'mon Really? If your gonna deny doping atleast do it right, the lance way, hire an army of lawyers and start a cancer benefit to cover it all up.
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Well, if this week with Armstrong exonerated and Contador hung has not proven the golden rule, I don't know what will. Golden rule? THAT WITH THE GOLD MAKES THE RULES!!

BTW, you might as well hand him the Vuelta title right now because it is as if they knew he was coming!!
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Horrible for the sport. If no result is ever final, there is little point to watching the event.

The powers-that-be have got to find a way to conclude this stuff within a few days of the finish -- the fewer the better. The multi-year process leaves far too much room for politics and money to alter the outcomes. And coming in second (with the accompanying lack of scrutiny) appears to be the best way to end up the winner!
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It is the Tour the one to be banned for this. Poor chap. Go Contador!.
Contador proved that he's not a sportsman when he profited on AS's mechanical. While I don't feel he deserved the win because of that this isn't the way for Shleck to get his win.

This is just more bad press for our sport.
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Horrible for the sport. If no result is ever final, there is little point to watching the event.

The powers-that-be have got to find a way to conclude this stuff within a few days of the finish -- the fewer the better. The multi-year process leaves far too much room for politics and money to alter the outcomes.
And coming in second (with the accompanying lack of scrutiny) appears to be the best way to end up the winner!
Actually, Schleck coming in second likely got tested almost, if not just as much, as the guy in first and third. I will be honest enough to say I can't stand Schleck at all, so him getting the win this way, which is BTW the only one he will ever have, is almost as good as spitting on his face!

Yes, I am feeling hateful today LOL...........
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lol..Andy won't win...not with such a flat tour....get ready for all the powerhouse sprinters to crush it this year/
I say this because I wont recognize any win with an asterix
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I for one, like Contador
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Two years is to long!

It also took way to long for the ruling.
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this news completely surprises me, since your a huge pic of Contador punching a (stupid) spectactor who got too close as your sig for most of 2011.
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Two years is to long!

It also took way to long for the ruling.
For some reason the two years are actually up August of this year, so in reality it's more like six months.
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Are you guys seeing the brief? In para 274 sections d and e, they tracked down the actual farmer who sold the veal to the butcher, had him pull his tags and records for the exact animal! That's some good work right there by the prosecution.
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HA! They nailed him because of veal! Conti's handlers bought a special, expensive type of meat, and tried to argue it was from South America. The panel rejected that a meat such as that would have been imported. Conti was sentenced for his fine taste!
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For some reason the two years are actually up August of this year, so in reality it's more like six months.
He got about 6 months "time served",for the period between two rulings when he was banned, which I understand, but I don't get why they then started the clock retroactively in January 2011, considering he raced all year. WTF? Is it because they are going to vacate all his results? Still doesn't seem right.
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Is it because they are going to vacate all his results? Still doesn't seem right.
Yes, all results between the 2010 TdF and now are null, including his Giro title last year.
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Meh.
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Horrible for the sport. If no result is ever final, there is little point to watching the event.

The powers-that-be have got to find a way to conclude this stuff within a few days of the finish -- the fewer the better. The multi-year process leaves far too much room for politics and money to alter the outcomes. And coming in second (with the accompanying lack of scrutiny) appears to be the best way to end up the winner!
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HA! They nailed him because of veal! Conti's handlers bought a special, expensive type of meat, and tried to argue it was from South America. The panel rejected that a meat such as that would have been imported. Conti was sentenced for his fine taste!
It less to do with taste and more to do with a different culture than the US. In France, even Mickey D's hamburger is traceable - "each animal has a passport showing where it was born, raised, and slaughtered, according to McDonald's France. That's called traceability, and we don't yet have such a national system in place."
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Horrible for the sport. If no result is ever final, there is little point to watching the event.

The powers-that-be have got to find a way to conclude this stuff within a few days of the finish -- the fewer the better. The multi-year process leaves far too much room for politics and money to alter the outcomes. And coming in second (with the accompanying lack of scrutiny) appears to be the best way to end up the winner!
My post after Stage 9 of the 2011 Giro...

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I would just race for second from the start and bank on AC winning the race but getting his ban reinstated afterwards.
http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1#post12646361
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YESSSSSSSSSSS

It was cheap enough he attacked while Andy had mechanical issues, hes a prick and a cheater and got what he deserves
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