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Old 07-09-12, 10:31 AM   #1
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Farrar for Lantern Rouge

Tyler Farrar is now only 1 minute out. He's been chasing down Feillu's apparent stranglehold the last couple of days. Can he achieve the LR before crashing out?
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Can he achieve the LR before crashing out?
Not sure if your joking or not here.

It takes guts to finish a tour, especially after having such a rough time. I'm sure he's fighting off alot of pain to keep going and not just physical pain, but emotional too. American fans havn't exactly been kind to him. My hope is to see him healed up and competitive in Paris. Whats yours?
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Not sure if your joking or not here.

It takes guts to finish a tour, especially after having such a rough time. I'm sure he's fighting off alot of pain to keep going and not just physical pain, but emotional too. American fans havn't exactly been kind to him. My hope is to see him healed up and competitive in Paris. Whats yours?
Think it's safe to say he is joking.
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Think it's safe to say he is joking.
Well, I guess I've heard enough cheap shots against Farrar. It's getting abit old...
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LR is pretty prestigious. If he can't win a stage, maybe this would at least give Garmin a little laugh and some good mood.
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I don't really know how one gets the Lantern Rouge. Too lazy to search. Does the rider have to meet a certain time limit? How are the time limits determined?
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I don't really know how one gets the Lantern Rouge. Too lazy to search. Does the rider have to meet a certain time limit? How are the time limits determined?
I know, but I'm too lazy to type it all out.
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LR is pretty prestigious.
It actually is. The post race crits and races which feature certain jersey wearers and riders from the TdF includes the lantern rouge. Being the LR gets you paid!
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Wow. Good to see this place still has a resident humorless twit.
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I don't really know how one gets the Lantern Rouge. Too lazy to search. Does the rider have to meet a certain time limit? How are the time limits determined?
It is the lowest placed rider by time to finish. TO FINISH is a very important part.

Historically it has tended to be a rider involved in and/or caught behind several crashes. In a way the bad luck tough SOB who refuses to quit.

recently there have been some who sandbagged to get it. Which changes the 'award' considerably.
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Knowing Tyler he'll crash on the Champs D'Elysee and DNF, then storm someone's bus looking for revenge.
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then storm someone's bus looking for revenge.
...causing the bus to crash?
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It is the lowest placed rider by time to finish. TO FINISH is a very important part.

Historically it has tended to be a rider involved in and/or caught behind several crashes. In a way the bad luck tough SOB who refuses to quit.

recently there have been some who sandbagged to get it. Which changes the 'award' considerably.
I read somewhere that you have to make it within a certain time limit. Who determines the cut-off times?
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I read somewhere that you have to make it within a certain time limit. Who determines the cut-off times?
Race organizors
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It's a percentage of the winning time that determines what the time riders need to finish by to avoid elimination. The percentage is dependent on the type and length of the stage. UCI has the TDF rules available online if you want to get into the details.
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It's a percentage of the winning time that determines what the time riders need to finish by to avoid elimination. The percentage is dependent on the type and length of the stage. UCI has the TDF rules available online if you want to get into the details.

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After stage 10, Farrar is still 1 minute out, but the new leader is Jimmy Engoulvent:
  • 174. Tyler FARRAR, Garmin-Sharp, at 1:47:11
  • 175. Jimmy ENGOULVENT, Saur-Sojasun, at 1:48:12
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After stage 10, Farrar is still 1 minute out, but the new leader is Jimmy Engoulvent:
  • 174. Tyler FARRAR, Garmin-Sharp, at 1:47:11
  • 175. Jimmy ENGOULVENT, Saur-Sojasun, at 1:48:12
Brice Feillu with the massive jump in the standings LOL!
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This could get ugly again if someone from Argos starts to drift back
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Tyler takes the lead with 5 seconds over Engoulvent. Could he be the first American LR ever? There are lots of mountains left.

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[TD]USAFARRAR Tyler[/TD]
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[TD="class: col_5"]51h 04' 33''[/TD]
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It's a percentage of the winning time that determines what the time riders need to finish by to avoid elimination. The percentage is dependent on the type and length of the stage. UCI has the TDF rules available online if you want to get into the details.
Also as you know the race organizers can relax the cutoff. I thnik it may now even be part of the formula that if more than a certian percentage would be eliminated then they are not eliminated. (dangerous to count on that even if in hte rules as they can look for any breaks in groups, so if you are in a safge group and have a problem late, bye bye).

I think the riders who got hit by the car last year made the cutoff time, but het general consensus was if they had not they would have been allowed to continue.
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Farrar extends his lead to 3.5 minutes:

  • 163. Jimmy ENGOULVENT, Saur-Sojasun, at 2:21:12
  • 164. Tyler FARRAR, Garmin-Sharp, at 2:24:45
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Also as you know the race organizers can relax the cutoff.
For example, http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling/...722-1hrvr.html
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