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Old 07-23-12, 02:36 AM   #1
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vuelta 2012

so the 2012 vuelta looks to be a (as usual) climbers tour and (hopefully) likely more exciting than the just concluded tdf.
i know it's a little early given the olympics this year (course looks a bit staid) but cautiously optimistic that we'll get 25%
the amount of postings on the vuelta and related items that we do on the tdf. seems like many come out from
under their respective rocks once a year and it's only during the tdf. bring on the vuelta!!
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If it is half as good as last year's it will be a classic. Sky have more or less acknowledged that Froome will be their leader - I'm guessing with Uran and/or Henau in the team as climbing domestiques - and we should see Contador back.
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Can't go from Tour to Vuelta just like that.
Need some Post Tour crits and Olympics and one-day summer Classics and Colorado and...

Good Contador will be back
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Can't wait for the Vuelta!
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I think Froome is going to win this one hands down barring unforeseen circumstances.

Much like the spring classics the Vuelta is overlooked and dismissed as a second
rate race by most of the 99ers.
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I think Froome is going to win this one hands down barring unforeseen circumstances.
As well as I think he'll ride, and as much as I'd like to see him on the top step, I think AC is going to come back and want to make a statement. He's going to want to dominate this year's Vuelta like he did the Giro last year. We'll see what kind of form he's been able to get himself into during his suspension.
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As well as I think he'll ride, and as much as I'd like to see him on the top step, I think AC is going to come back and want to make a statement. He's going to want to dominate this year's Vuelta like he did the Giro last year. We'll see what kind of form he's been able to get himself into during his suspension.
I tend to think in this manner as well. I think Froome is a great cyclist...I just think that AC is better.
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Froome can't climb with AC and you'd have to think that the Tour took something out of him. The TTT should be a huge advantage for him and he'll gain time in the one 40km ITT, but 6 summit finishes is enough for Contador to gain plenty of time.
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Froome can't climb with AC and you'd have to think that the Tour took something out of him. The TTT should be a huge advantage for him and he'll gain time in the one 40km ITT, but 6 summit finishes is enough for Contador to gain plenty of time.
But nothing trains you for a race like racing.

I think it is reasonable to thing that in some aspects AC will come in not fully sharp and Froome will come in a bit tired.

It may be interesting to see how those 2 factors play out. If we the fans are very lucky it will mean advantage to one on some stages and to the other on others. That could be very nice for us,.
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Any word on who else might be riding? I know Cobo is defending.

Andy Schleck may ride but is reportedly still on the mend. What about Sanchez or Hesjedal any word on their conditions or if they'd ride?

Nibali, Valverde?

I'm not necessarily thinking of winners, just riders who will make things more interesting.

I wonder if Vino will ride. He seemed willing to try anything to get a final TdF stage, and by the end it seemed he had ridden himself back to halfway decent shape.

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Froome can't climb with AC .
We don't know that.
Froome is a completely different rider after these past couple GT's.
And don't forget, AC can TT with the best of them.
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At the risk of falling in line with conventional wisdom I believe Contador will crush the field.

Froome is going to be wrung out from the Tour, mentally and physically. Contador will have fresh legs, a relatively fresh team and a big fat chip on his skinny shoulder.

When are the rosters announced, anyone know?
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What teams will be there?

Also, have they put out any info on streaming video options? NBC's VOD option allowed me to actually see a lot of the TdF this year. I'm hoping there is a similar set up for the Vuelta.
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If it is half as good as last year's it will be a classic. Sky have more or less acknowledged that Froome will be their leader - I'm guessing with Uran and/or Henau in the team as climbing domestiques - and we should see Contador back.
I'm pretty excited about all that!
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Old 07-23-12, 01:32 PM   #15
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haha...it would seem that at least a few of us are hot & bothered to get to the vuelta besides me, and that's a good thing. my thought is that the recently concluded tdf was a little lacking in terms of entertainment value this year and i'm cautiously optimistic that this vuelta will fill the bill. it definitely did last year. hoping that the tdf posts than mentioned the word/synonym of "boring" are in short supply for the vuelta threads. if this forum can capture a little bit more passion for the vuelta because the tdf didn't live up to many of our expectations, i'll take it.

i know this is the de facto 'makeup gt' for many that had early season injuries & crashes, hoping to salvage their season and i've learned
to be okay with that. both the vuelta & the giro (imho) seem to be less 'controlled' by the big teams and seem to have more quality input from the smaller teams.
it is a little early for team announcements and specific riders + a few races beforehand but the course looks to be killer. ttt for the 1st stage (although it doesn't seem to count towards the overall gc). mountains start in earnest on stage 3. love the profile of the stage 11 itt (the only one) and there is a killer penultimate mountain stage the day before madrid which will undoubtedly shake things up. the stages are shorter distances and the whole of the vuelta is uncharacteristically grouped in the northern part of the country; looks like only one long transfer so we could have 'fresher' racing. here's to a great late summer!

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if this forum can capture a little bit more passion for the vuelta because the tdf didn't live up to many of our expectations, i'll take it.
It lived up to my expectations almost exactly. In fact I won a bet I made before the tour started that both Wiggins & Froome would be on the podium.
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Old 07-24-12, 03:23 AM   #17
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well played! we'll look forward to your handicapping of the various jerseys of the vuelta then.
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If anybody can win a GT with almost zero racing in his legs, it's Contador, but there's still some uncertainty in my mind about what kind of condition he'll have.

And commenting on Froome's inferior climbing ability really isn't fair, because we haven't SEEN his climbing ability cause of Wiggins. He could have won the last three grand tours in my opinion if he had focused solely on each of them, but again, we don't know how his legs will fare with two consecutive GTs.
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I love the vuelta! i like it even more than the tour in some ways...
i hope one of our networks has coverage, but if not, there's the internet.
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Dont like contador but, if he is still in form like when he won the giro then he should just smoke everybody including froome. Either way will be interesting because one has not raced and the other one might be tired.

Totally different climbers, contador should show his class.

As for AS he wont finish the race, and probably won't even start it.
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Look no further than a Spanish winner. Froome will have trouble maintaining condition, after such a strenuous TDF. Contador has no racing miles in his legs and without the benefit of cheating, may lack top end power in the TT and punch on the mountain tops.

Contador seems to be the bookies' favourite. I hope that's just ignorance, or it would be too depressing.............
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