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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat4Lifer View Post
    I dunno about just track
    Be cool to see a black cyclist winning Milan - San Remo or Ghent Wevelgem
    I could see that happening
    I'd like to see it, too. And it will someday. I've been cheering for Daniel Teklehaimanot (Orica-GreenEdge). Last year he said he still has difficulty with cold wet weather.

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    got sponsorship money behind them ?, Pro Cycling is a Commercial enterprise, after all.

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    A question I'm more interested in is, "will another rider from the United States win the TDF". The current batch of non-juiced riders are good but not nearly good enough for a TDF title. The radar screen is looking bleak in the coming years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by La Tortue View Post
    A question I'm more interested in is, "will another rider from the United States win the TDF". The current batch of non-juiced riders are good but not nearly good enough for a TDF title. The radar screen is looking bleak in the coming years.
    Winning best young rider doesn't put you on the Radar screen?
    You could fall off a cliff and die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
    Winning best young rider doesn't put you on the Radar screen?
    Winning BYR doesn't do much. Winning and winning a lot as a young rider will put you on the screen though. Names like Peter Sagan come to mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
    Winning best young rider doesn't put you on the Radar screen?
    Guess that (which was also 5th in the TDF) isn't good enough for some.

    But then again I'd bet there were some Belgians who were just as pessimestic after the 1967 Giro, sure that they had no one on thee radar who would beat the Italians. After all their yuong hope only finished 9th.

    Now how did he do the next year?
    Perish any man who suspects that these men either did or suffered anything unseemly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith99 View Post
    Guess that (which was also 5th in the TDF) isn't good enough for some.

    But then again I'd bet there were some Belgians who were just as pessimestic after the 1967 Giro, sure that they had no one on thee radar who would beat the Italians. After all their yuong hope only finished 9th.

    Now how did he do the next year?
    Do I undestand correctly you are saying Tejay will be considered a favorite for this years TDF?
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    Not quite the TdF but Ethiopian rider Natnael Berhane (Europcar) today won stage 3 (queen) of the Tour of Turkey and leads by 10 seconds on gc.

    http://www.steephill.tv/tour-of-turkey/#spoiler
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caretaker View Post
    Not quite the TdF but Ethiopian rider Natnael Berhane (Europcar) today won stage 3 (queen) of the Tour of Turkey and leads by 10 seconds on gc.

    http://www.steephill.tv/tour-of-turkey/#spoiler
    He's Eritrean, not Ethiopian. Still African, though, and it was a wonderful ride. Absolutely brutal climb to the finish.
    There have been many days when I haven't felt like riding, but there has never been a day when I was sorry I rode.

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    Yes, brutal climb and kudos to Berhane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chasm54 View Post
    He's Eritrean, not Ethiopian. Still African, though, and it was a wonderful ride. Absolutely brutal climb to the finish.
    Just a little trivia about Eritrea:

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/er.html


    Excerpt:

    "The UN established Eritrea as an autonomous region within the Ethiopian federation in 1952. Ethiopia's full annexation of Eritrea as a province 10 years later sparked a violent 30-year struggle for independence that ended in 1991 with Eritrean rebels defeating government forces. Eritreans overwhelmingly approved independence in a 1993 referendum. ISAIAS Afworki has been Eritrea's only president since independence; his rule, particularly since 2001, has been highly autocratic and repressive. His government has created a highly militarized society by pursuing an unpopular program of mandatory conscription into national service, sometimes of indefinite length. A two-and-a-half-year border war with Ethiopia that erupted in 1998 ended under UN auspices in December 2000."


    I'm hoping Natnael Berhane takes it all the way
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    Quote Originally Posted by La Tortue View Post
    Do I undestand correctly you are saying Tejay will be considered a favorite for this years TDF?
    Tejay may not be a favorite for the 2013 TDF but he's got to be in the conversation of riders with the potential to contend in coming years.
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    Anyone ever heard of Major Taylor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by James H Haury View Post
    Anyone ever heard of Major Taylor?
    I believe Taylor was an American of African descent, commonly referred to as African American.
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    Quote Originally Posted by La Tortue View Post
    A question I'm more interested in is, "will another rider from the United States win the TDF". The current batch of non-juiced riders are good but not nearly good enough for a TDF title. The radar screen is looking bleak in the coming years.
    Whether it's an African rider or an American rider the measure of success shouldn't just be winning in yellow at the TdF.
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    "The aim of science is to make difficult things understandable in a simpler way; the aim of poetry is to state simple things in an incomprehensible way. The two are incompatible."

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    jeepers, ever see the film 'zulu'? put THOSE dudes, a whole impi of 'em, in the tdf and watch the rest
    scatter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caretaker View Post
    Whether it's an African rider or an American rider the measure of success shouldn't just be winning in yellow at the TdF.
    I agree but the title of this thread is "Can an African Win the Tour de France?". Sticking with that question I would rather see an American win the race. I have no idea why Major Taylor came up. He never won nor entered the TDF. I wish he had then perhaps we would have two US riders win the TDF.The chances of either an American or African winning is very slim at the moment. I"ll stick with the home team. Reality says someone from China will win the race before another rider from Africa or the US wins again. The cycling management is pushing hard to move into China. The Chinese athletes are currently way ahead of the drug catchers. My bet is we are more likely to see a Lance Yongstrong enter the peloton, win the TDF capturing a giant new market for the UCI before we see another US or African rider win.
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    No African will win the TDF without surgery to remove their weight disadvantage.
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    Nick, I don't necessarily like agreeing with you -- but your spot on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by La Tortue View Post
    A question I'm more interested in is, "will another rider from the United States win the TDF". The current batch of non-juiced riders are good but not nearly good enough for a TDF title. The radar screen is looking bleak in the coming years.
    it has to be pointed out that is what George Mount was saying when Lemond retired

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    RSA ? perhaps..

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