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Old 03-14-13, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Cat4Lifer
I dunno about just track
Be cool to see a black cyclist winning Milan - San Remo or Ghent Wevelgem
I could see that happening
I'd like to see it, too. And it will someday. I've been cheering for Daniel Teklehaimanot (Orica-GreenEdge). Last year he said he still has difficulty with cold wet weather.
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got sponsorship money behind them ?, Pro Cycling is a Commercial enterprise, after all.
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A question I'm more interested in is, "will another rider from the United States win the TDF". The current batch of non-juiced riders are good but not nearly good enough for a TDF title. The radar screen is looking bleak in the coming years.
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Originally Posted by La Tortue
A question I'm more interested in is, "will another rider from the United States win the TDF". The current batch of non-juiced riders are good but not nearly good enough for a TDF title. The radar screen is looking bleak in the coming years.
Winning best young rider doesn't put you on the Radar screen?
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Winning best young rider doesn't put you on the Radar screen?
Winning BYR doesn't do much. Winning and winning a lot as a young rider will put you on the screen though. Names like Peter Sagan come to mind.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Winning best young rider doesn't put you on the Radar screen?
Guess that (which was also 5th in the TDF) isn't good enough for some.

But then again I'd bet there were some Belgians who were just as pessimestic after the 1967 Giro, sure that they had no one on thee radar who would beat the Italians. After all their yuong hope only finished 9th.

Now how did he do the next year?
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Originally Posted by Keith99
Guess that (which was also 5th in the TDF) isn't good enough for some.

But then again I'd bet there were some Belgians who were just as pessimestic after the 1967 Giro, sure that they had no one on thee radar who would beat the Italians. After all their yuong hope only finished 9th.

Now how did he do the next year?
Do I undestand correctly you are saying Tejay will be considered a favorite for this years TDF?
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Not quite the TdF but Ethiopian rider Natnael Berhane (Europcar) today won stage 3 (queen) of the Tour of Turkey and leads by 10 seconds on gc.

https://www.steephill.tv/tour-of-turkey/#spoiler
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Originally Posted by Caretaker
Not quite the TdF but Ethiopian rider Natnael Berhane (Europcar) today won stage 3 (queen) of the Tour of Turkey and leads by 10 seconds on gc.

https://www.steephill.tv/tour-of-turkey/#spoiler
He's Eritrean, not Ethiopian. Still African, though, and it was a wonderful ride. Absolutely brutal climb to the finish.
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Yes, brutal climb and kudos to Berhane.
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Originally Posted by chasm54
He's Eritrean, not Ethiopian. Still African, though, and it was a wonderful ride. Absolutely brutal climb to the finish.
Just a little trivia about Eritrea:

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/er.html


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"The UN established Eritrea as an autonomous region within the Ethiopian federation in 1952. Ethiopia's full annexation of Eritrea as a province 10 years later sparked a violent 30-year struggle for independence that ended in 1991 with Eritrean rebels defeating government forces. Eritreans overwhelmingly approved independence in a 1993 referendum. ISAIAS Afworki has been Eritrea's only president since independence; his rule, particularly since 2001, has been highly autocratic and repressive. His government has created a highly militarized society by pursuing an unpopular program of mandatory conscription into national service, sometimes of indefinite length. A two-and-a-half-year border war with Ethiopia that erupted in 1998 ended under UN auspices in December 2000."


I'm hoping Natnael Berhane takes it all the way
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Originally Posted by La Tortue
Do I undestand correctly you are saying Tejay will be considered a favorite for this years TDF?
Tejay may not be a favorite for the 2013 TDF but he's got to be in the conversation of riders with the potential to contend in coming years.
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Anyone ever heard of Major Taylor?
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Originally Posted by James H Haury
Anyone ever heard of Major Taylor?
I believe Taylor was an American of African descent, commonly referred to as African American.
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Originally Posted by La Tortue
A question I'm more interested in is, "will another rider from the United States win the TDF". The current batch of non-juiced riders are good but not nearly good enough for a TDF title. The radar screen is looking bleak in the coming years.
Whether it's an African rider or an American rider the measure of success shouldn't just be winning in yellow at the TdF.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Taylor
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jeepers, ever see the film 'zulu'? put THOSE dudes, a whole impi of 'em, in the tdf and watch the rest
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Originally Posted by Caretaker
Whether it's an African rider or an American rider the measure of success shouldn't just be winning in yellow at the TdF.
I agree but the title of this thread is "Can an African Win the Tour de France?". Sticking with that question I would rather see an American win the race. I have no idea why Major Taylor came up. He never won nor entered the TDF. I wish he had then perhaps we would have two US riders win the TDF.The chances of either an American or African winning is very slim at the moment. I"ll stick with the home team. Reality says someone from China will win the race before another rider from Africa or the US wins again. The cycling management is pushing hard to move into China. The Chinese athletes are currently way ahead of the drug catchers. My bet is we are more likely to see a Lance Yongstrong enter the peloton, win the TDF capturing a giant new market for the UCI before we see another US or African rider win.

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No African will win the TDF without surgery to remove their weight disadvantage.
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Originally Posted by La Tortue
A question I'm more interested in is, "will another rider from the United States win the TDF". The current batch of non-juiced riders are good but not nearly good enough for a TDF title. The radar screen is looking bleak in the coming years.
it has to be pointed out that is what George Mount was saying when Lemond retired
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RSA ? perhaps..
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