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    My problem with the tour is the riders need to slow down and enjoy the ride

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgjackson View Post
    ***Please don't move this to the "Pro" forum. I don't know those guys over there and I'd like to have a civil discussion with the folks here about pro cycling.***

    I honestly don't care that Armstrong used PEDs. They ALL do. It has been part of cycling since the early 1900's. Human beings aren't designed to ride bicycles at top speed over mountains, 120+ miles per day for weeks on end. A single day event lasts longer than any other sporting event. A football game lasts about 3 hours with all kinds of breaks. A marathon is done in about 2 hours. Maybe an Ironman Triathlon comes close...but those guys don't do those 10 days in a row.

    I think professional cycling is entirely too arduous. No other sport even comes close. I mean, 5 hours a day of constant racing for two to three weeks? Imagine the NFL scheduling three or four games a week. What if the NBA schedule had series that lasted 15 consecutive days? It wouldn't take much more than a few days before players started dropping like flies. You would practically require PEDs just to keep up.

    What if cycling races were shorter? Maybe 40-50 miles a day with days off in between for rest.

    Cycling has a huge PR problem right now and I think LA is going to blow the roof off of it. The Olympics are even talking about dropping the sport entirely due to widespread doping. I think it's a bit ridiculous for cyclists to race in these grand events and expect them to do it naturally. Humans aren't designed to do that. Would shorter events with more rest reduce the use of PEDs?

    Thoughts?

    What arduous and the problem with pro cycling is the lack of organization, too many federations, organizations, anti-doping originations, etc all in the mix. What is needed is a single organization that runs the show like the NFL, or a better example the PGA. Pro cycling is about entertainment like all pro sports. When every country cycling federation that also regulates their amateur cycling also has their hands in pro cycling things are going to get messy. If you dope in the NFL one organization is judge, jury, and executioner and the matter is solved in weeks. Contador's case took over a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedHerring View Post
    What arduous and the problem with pro cycling is the lack of organization, too many federations, organizations, anti-doping originations, etc all in the mix. What is needed is a single organization that runs the show like the NFL, or a better example the PGA. Pro cycling is about entertainment like all pro sports. When every country cycling federation that also regulates their amateur cycling also has their hands in pro cycling things are going to get messy. If you dope in the NFL one organization is judge, jury, and executioner and the matter is solved in weeks. Contador's case took over a year.
    Problem with that, imo, is that there is a conflict of interest when the sanctioning body is the only one responsible for anti-doping controls. That's exactly why they got away with it for so long. The UCI has sponsors to consider keeping on and tend to sweep it all under the rug.

    And btw,
    They might well not get a handle on the designer hormones and testestrone for awhile. But if they can get a handle on the blood/oxygen boosters and transfusions (and I think that's more likely) it should make the sport sane enough for the less financed teams to compete on a more level playing field....so to speak.

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    It's too arduous for me.

    Too arduous for a professional cyclist, no way.
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    Humans are deadly predators because of a combination of bipedal motion, hands, a large brain processing extraordinary inputs (senses), language and teamwork. Cycling takes 4, successful competition on the scale of TDF takes five. The strangeness of teamwork includes opposing riders..thus strategy, again in the realm of humans. Where TDF fails is in the awarding of a single champion when all know that it was teamwork that got him to the final podium coupled with the intangible, the brutal single minded focus/inspiration of the champion to propel the team to victory. Isaac Newton's famous quote (attributed to Bernard of Chartres); "If I have seen further it is because of standing on ye shoulders of Giants" is as relevant today as 300 years ago.
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