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Old 03-26-13, 10:29 PM   #1
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Jan Ullrich??

So with the Lance fallout, does that mean Jan Ullrich is the winner of the TDF all of those years he came in 2nd behind Armstrong??
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Old 03-27-13, 12:22 AM   #2
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There's no winner, they havent changed anything so all those 7 years have no winner.
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Ullrich was also doping. They would have to go a long way down the finishing order to find a rider that wasn't doping.
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Old 03-30-13, 03:59 AM   #4
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still my co-favorite rider (along with josé maría jimenez) of that era. if you're looking for innocence during this time, it'll be hard to locate.
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Old 03-30-13, 06:09 AM   #5
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Ullrich was one of my favourites too. It was interesting to contrast his climbing style with a big gear versus Armstrong with a smaller gear and high cadence.

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Leaving aside the doping, Ullrich's two GT wins are a testimonial to unfilled potential. When he was supporting Riis in '96, and winning in '97, he looked as if he would dominate the GTs for years. He had a bad habit of getting massively out of shape during the winter, which can't have helped him, and he has a history of depression, which may have been another factor.
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oh man...
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http://espn.go.com/sports/endurance/...-doping-legacy
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ullrich was human...everything armstrong was not.
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Lifted from the > 50 forum...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=tCBkEVXgtJM
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Hold on a second...
So, according to the video, every rider (save Norton) tested positive for banned substances in the TDF in every year between 1997 - 2008?
Is that true?!
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Hold on a second...
So, according to the video, every rider (save Norton) tested positive for banned substances in the TDF in every year between 1997 - 2008?
Is that true?!
First I've heard of it. They didn't have an EPO test until 2001 and I don't know that they would have even kept blood samples this long. Not only that but not everybody gets randomly tested.

April Fool joke ?
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April Fool joke ?
It must be.
That would mean that Bassons tested positive, and that can't be.
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So with the Lance fallout, does that mean Jan Ullrich is the winner of the TDF all of those years he came in 2nd behind Armstrong??
Is there an emoticon for "jaw hits floor"?

Looks like no but these apply






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Who the hell is this norton edgar????
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Who the hell is this norton edgar????
"Edgar" as in Edgar Allen POE.....US Postal's code name for EPO according to Hamilton.
I'm a little slow and just now catching that part of this little April Fools joke.
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Ullrich was also doping. They would have to go a long way down the finishing order to find a rider that wasn't doping.
Christophe Bassons come on down!
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