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Old 04-02-13, 09:46 PM
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He's 23 for crying out loud. Ever heard of Spring Break? It's quite possible he won't behave like a college kid when he's no longer the age of a college kid.
A more relevant topic of discussion is how he's been making the rest of the peloton look like a bunch of amateurs lately.
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Originally Posted by Highgear
Pro cycling. Sagan, like him or dislike him?
Pig.
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Old 04-03-13, 03:41 AM
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I used to like Sagan but this ass grabbing on the podium is plain wrong and stupid.

His team manager needs to bench him for a race or two and make sure Sagan gets his head straight.
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Hi is kind of a dumb kid right now. Hopefully he will mature pretty quickly.
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Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia
I wonder how many of you, who think that Sagan's behavior is awesome or cool, would say the same if it was your daughter's arse being pinched.
Quite honestly if my daughter ends up as a podium girl I will be thankful if an ass pinching is my biggest worry.
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Old 04-03-13, 11:45 AM
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i do like him...but yes, he is still a dumb kid...he is also a superb talent, who will only get better with experience...i think he has learnt his lesson over this incident (i am happy he did before getting slapped with a lawsuit doing the same thing in the USA);
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Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia
I wonder how many of you, who think that Sagan's behavior is awesome or cool, would say the same if it was your daughter's arse being pinched.
Bingo.
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Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia
I wonder how many of you, who think that Sagan's behavior is awesome or cool, would say the same if it was your daughter's arse being pinched.
I wouldn't think it "cool" if my daughter relied upon her sexuality to make it ahead and then I cry because someone responds sexually to her sexual behavior.
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I wouldn't think it "cool" if my daughter relied upon her sexuality to make it ahead and then I cry because someone responds sexually to her sexual behavior.
So you really think that every model has no right to personal space?

You guys do know the difference between a podium girl/model and a stripper, right?
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You guys do know the difference between a podium girl/model and a stripper, right?
Clearly you think you do: podium "girls" and models have a right to "personal space," whereas strippers don't.
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Originally Posted by Cat4Lifer
Clearly you think you do: podium "girls" and models have a right to "personal space," whereas strippers don't.
I understand that strippers are using their sexuality to get ahead. Sexuality and 'being pretty' are not the same thing, just like wearing a really quite modest dress is not the same as wearing lingerie or being naked.

Do you understand that your current argument defeats your prior one?
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Originally Posted by Commodus
Do you understand that your current argument defeats your prior one?
I understand that you think you won something.
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Originally Posted by Cat4Lifer
I understand that you think you won something.
Pointing out failure is hardly winning.
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Originally Posted by Commodus
Pointing out failure is hardly winning.
neither is believing you have made a point
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Originally Posted by Commodus
Sexuality and 'being pretty' are not the same thing, just like wearing a really quite modest dress is not the same as wearing lingerie or being naked.
So what you're saying is: wearing a dress isn't the same as being naked.
Genius!
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He is a bit too much of character or showman for me. Reminds me of Valentino Rossi from MotoGP, who I like to watch ride but I don't buy into the antics most of the time. I prefer the gracious winners who are a bit more humble.

Good on Sagan for being strong and a winner/contender but he is just another of a long line ahead and behind him.
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good comparison to valetino...
i happen to like the way both celebrate
i remember years ago watching andrea peron crossing the line in first and celebrating exuberantly...
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Originally Posted by Cat4Lifer
good comparison to valetino...
i happen to like the way both celebrate
i remember years ago watching andrea peron crossing the line in first and celebrating exuberantly...
Celebrating a bicycle race win exuberantly and humiliating a girl in front of the whole world (who is doing an honest day's work) are not the same thing.

Grabbing/pinching a girl's arse in public is inexcusable, unless she is your lover, and even then, slightly inappropriate.
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Grabbing/pinching a girl's arse in public is inexcusable, unless she is your lover, and even then, slightly inappropriate.
I'd say that's for her to decide and not a bunch eunuchs
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[h=5]Retweeted Maja Leye (@MajaLeye):

What happened on Sunday was wrong. I hope this never happens again. But I'm sure it won't...excuses accepted @petosagan #flanders[/h]
I agree.
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if she can excuse the "assualt" in less than a 140 characters I guess I can too
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I liked him until I saw this photo. He should be disciplined and forced to take sensitivity training.
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Originally Posted by Cat4Lifer
I'd say that's for her to decide and not a bunch eunuchs
Can we please stop the name calling?

I do not have daughters, but I do have two sisters and I shudder to think of them being humiliated in public by an idiot, whose only redeeming quality is that he can ride fast on bicycles. I knew smart girls who worked as hostesses/models while attending college, and from what i've seen of Sagan's behaviour so far, I am not impressed.

Weren't you the same person defending LA on here until he publicly shut you up by admitting he had always been a doper?
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I am not a Sagan fan primarily because if he is winning the stage/race/jersey it means my favorites are loosing.

I don't care for the way he shows off but he is a kid. I speculate that coming from Eastern Europe and now racing at the highest level with great skill and success with all that comes with that, he world has expanded exponentially. A bit of bad behavior is a natural consequence and will pass in time. I think he is sill figuring out where the lines are.

On the other hand, I am quite happy the big scandal in cycling is an inappropriate butt squeeze rather than doping, though it is still early in the season.
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