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    Quote Originally Posted by Jed19 View Post
    Can we please stop the name calling?
    I dunno, can you?

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    I do not have daughters, but I do have two sisters and I shudder to think of them being humiliated in public by an idiot
    Yes, women should only be humiliated by ppl with a 120+ I.Q.

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    Weren't you the same person defending LA on here until he publicly shut you up by admitting he had always been a doper?
    No.

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    Regards,

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    Bet he has a nicer car these days.

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    Hey, the women are already being objectified.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jed19 View Post
    That's what I was talking about. That shirt is so ridiculously immature, even looks like it's sized for a teenage boy, not a man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jed19 View Post
    Raunchy jokes told or written in English are not perceived as quite as crude in countries where the language is not the dominant one. To us it's filthy. To non anglophones, it's like 'Voulez-vous coucher avec moi ce soir?'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commodus View Post
    So you really think that every model has no right to personal space?

    You guys do know the difference between a podium girl/model and a stripper, right?
    Exactly, podium girls are there because they are attractive women. Nothing wrong with that. They are not there to be pawed by a rider who thinks he is too cool.

    Sagan has issues, as someone has previously pointed out, he inked his name on a woman's breast when she approached himfor his autograph. He is a good, young rider--I will give him that. But I can't wait for the day when he gets his comeuppance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat4Lifer View Post
    I'd say that's for her to decide and not a bunch eunuchs
    So you think that criticizing Sagan's oafish behavior make a man a eunuch?

    Better a eunuch that a low life dirt bag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrous Bueller View Post
    Raunchy jokes told or written in English are not perceived as quite as crude in countries where the language is not the dominant one. To us it's filthy. To non anglophones, it's like 'Voulez-vous coucher avec moi ce soir?'
    I disagree. English is not my first language. A dirty joke in English, however, is still a dirty joke. Non-English speakers may not get the full meaning of the joke, but as long as they are fluent in English they will understand its full meaning.

    This is especially true when you consider the fact that English is a nearly universal language. I have friends who are Europeans, I am certain that they all get it (the "message" on Sagan's tee shirt).

    The message on his tee shirt is pretty clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
    The message on his tee shirt is pretty clear.
    And to think the idiot walks around in that t-shirt.

    It is at the very least, immature, and at most, a sign of serious depravity or sociopathic behaviour. In a civil society, a guy who walks around in such a d****e-baggy t-shirt should be kept away from polite company.

    Just imagine running into that idiot, wearing that t-shirt, while you're in the company of your daughters, wife, sisters, mother............
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    Quote Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
    The message on his tee shirt is pretty clear.
    I didn't say that it wasn't. It's a matter of degree of appropriateness.

    I've lived in Europe and have developed some fluency in languages. I know how widespread English is. Dirty English jokes are more acceptable there than here.
    Imagine North American teenagers singing, "Would you like to sleep with me tonight," repeatedly? Not quite the same, is it?

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    I couldn't help but laugh intinctively just from the looks on his and Cancellera's unknowing face. And I'm thinking the brunette was doing the same. It's a little boorish though and if the blonde had slapped him it certainly would have upstaged that little joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
    So you think that criticizing Sagan's oafish behavior make a man a eunuch?
    Yes, that's exactly what I think; criticizing Sagan's behavior make a man a eunuch
    Sharp as tack you are.

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    Honestly, are we all a bunch of constipated blue-hairs?

    He is 23 y/o, young, lot of growing up to do, and doing it in the glare of top-level pro cycling. Thank goodness the stupid things I did at that age weren't endlessly dissected by a bunch of armchair moralists.

    Like lots of 23 year olds, he'll make mistakes. He's smart enough to only make each mistake once.

    In the 99.9% of the time that he is not making mistakes, he's an exciting rider. He has power, can climb, can sprint, needs to develop some TT, needs to learn tactics. I'm enjoying watching his journey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrous Bueller View Post
    He's 23 for crying out loud. Ever heard of Spring Break?
    Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't recall any other cyclists in their early 20s groping the podium girls like this.

    Granted it's not the most horrible thing ever, but there's no excuse for it. He's crass, he's an adult, and he simply needs to tone it down a notch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jed19 View Post
    In the world of multiple photoshops, I don't think this is evidence until I see it with my own two eyes.. For all we know, it could have been a plain blue shirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat4Lifer View Post
    Yes, that's exactly what I think; criticizing Sagan's behavior make a man a eunuch
    Sharp as tack you are.
    You know, I have a come back for that eunuch remark, but the mods may not be too keen on it, so I will just leave it at that.

    One measure of a man's character is not in the facile, little gotchas that he spews; rather, a measure of a man's character is found in those moments when he chooses to let the mental eunuch go free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddiepliers View Post
    In the world of multiple photoshops, I don't think this is evidence until I see it with my own two eyes.. For all we know, it could have been a plain blue shirt.
    Okay.

    What about a girl asking him for an autograph on a piece of paper after a race, and Sagan proceeding to sign on her cleavage? Was that photoshopped too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jed19 View Post
    Okay.

    What about a girl asking him for an autograph on a piece of paper after a race, and Sagan proceeding to sign on her cleavage? Was that photoshopped too?
    You have a point. Those may not have been real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
    One measure of a man's character is not in the facile, little gotchas that he spews; rather, a measure of a man's character is found in those moments when he chooses to let the mental eunuch go free.
    O Rly?

    Quote Originally Posted by eja_ bottecchia View Post
    You know, I have a come back for that eunuch remark, but the mods may not be too keen on it, so I will just leave it at that.
    lol boohoo

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    He's a helluva talent. I hope he doesn't get crippled in some stupid street fight over something juvenile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canam73 View Post
    You have a point. Those may not have been real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jed19 View Post
    Okay.

    What about a girl asking him for an autograph on a piece of paper after a race, and Sagan proceeding to sign on her cleavage? Was that photoshopped too?
    That's real. there's video of it. Also, I'd sign those tits too..

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    sprinters are on par with podium girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baj32161 View Post
    I would think that he would show more class and respect on the podium. I may be old school, but this just doesn't sit well with me.
    +1. I really don't like it.

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