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    WSJ: Cycling's Spandex Coup d'Etat

    From today's Wall Street Journal:

    Lance Armstrong's Fall Has Created Backlash Among Cyclists Over the Bright Lycra Outfit
    Over the past decade, Lance Armstrong did more than inspire tens of thousands of Americans to take up cycling. He inspired them to look like him......

    edited by lowcel - please note the rules on quoting articles.
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    Why's everybody have to hate?

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    Shortened your original post. Most likely be moving it to pro cycling in a few minutes.
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    What's his point? He takes a spurious concept (everyone wanted to be like Lance), cites anecdotal evidence (one story of a friend being criticized on a group ride) and then ties it to a lack of bike friendliness for our cities. I'm surprised there's no mention of the IRS scandal in here.

    My favorite, though, is the notion that falling out of fashion is fascism. What part of not following a trend is akin to a system of government anchored by fear, intimidation and a stringent control of media?

    I think he's trying very hard to be clever. Didn't really work, at least not for me. But I don't think this is for people who actually ride bikes.

    I have some kit stuff, some not. I like it tight because I don't like it flapping in the wind. I know what fascism actually is. And I wear whatever I feel like. Lance being a doper doesn't figure into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adrien View Post
    What's his point? He takes a spurious concept (everyone wanted to be like Lance), cites anecdotal evidence (one story of a friend being criticized on a group ride) and then ties it to a lack of bike friendliness for our cities. I'm surprised there's no mention of the IRS scandal in here.

    My favorite, though, is the notion that falling out of fashion is fascism. What part of not following a trend is akin to a system of government anchored by fear, intimidation and a stringent control of media?

    I think he's trying very hard to be clever. Didn't really work, at least not for me. But I don't think this is for people who actually ride bikes.

    I have some kit stuff, some not. I like it tight because I don't like it flapping in the wind. I know what fascism actually is. And I wear whatever I feel like. Lance being a doper doesn't figure into it.
    I think this is the sort of article written by a guy who's trying, as you say, very hard to be clever and really has no understanding of the culture/group/sport he's writing about.

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    I typically wear camo/cargo over my bibs so's when I drope the hamer on the unsuspecting road nazi, the effect is amplified. I'm not in Lycra to advertise SmS, Mercedes or some euro bank, I'm in it for the comfort.

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    i'm guessing the author hasnt ridden a bike in a while.

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    And not a single picture of this new style of clothing? Lazy or incompetent?

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    written by a non-cyclist fashionista for non-cyclist fashionistas.

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    my favorite.. 'snap-on pedals'

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    Quick! Everyone back to wool!!
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    Why is this in the pro section? What does this have to do with the Giro?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rousseau View Post
    Why is this in the pro section? What does this have to do with the Giro?
    +1

    This article has nothing to do with pro cycling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDfive21 View Post
    my favorite.. 'snap-on pedals'
    Haha, agreed. When I read that article, I thought "snap-on pedals"? W T F!

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    I actually read the article. Nicely done. Thanks for the link!

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    guess i'd better take up another sport before i encounter this spandex/lycra animosity.

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    FOX Street Journal doesn't understand cycling? OMG!!!
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    Well, that was entertaining. Probably not entertaining the way it was intended though...

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    Apparently, the cyclists around the Boulder area here, didn't get Mr Helliker's memo.

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    Interesting read, even if it is crap. If I were commuting on my bike I may not wear lycra shorts and a jersey, but I don't commute on my bike, unfortunately. I ride to exercise and because I like to. How would this guy feel after doing a century wearing his nifty, stylish, new jeans? Sweaty? Chaffed? This person obviously doesn't understand that it is about comfort on the bike. I see lycra shorts, a fitted jersey, and "funny clip on shoes" as part of the gear used in the sport. Nothing more. I'm sure many agree with that too. What if this guy wrote the same article, but directed it at football? Football helmets and tight, padded shorts are not cool, so they will be wearing Levi's and wool beenies instead. Forget function, lets look fashionable instead. Give me a break.....

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    Well
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    That was entertaining. What I don't get about the anti spandex cycling crowd, is how many of them still end up having to buy specific clothing for cycling, they just get chameleon clothes that look like typical clothing. What is gained here? You still have to buy the stuff, it's gets dirty all the time, and you have to wear more clothing that doesn't breathe as well, gets sweaty all the time, and will wear out prematurely because you wear it off the bike as well. For those who wear exactly what they would wear if they didn't ride and commute in that, this does not apply.
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    I've pretty much always worn a typical pro racing style jersey when riding on the road.

    Why?

    Because I want the guy who hits me to have to claim my bright colors blinded him, not that he did not see me.

    Full kit? Nope, except when I had one for my local (non racing) club. But the non-black side panels deteriorated pretty quickly.

    Lance want be? No way in hell. You may call me Martin however.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adrien View Post
    What's his point? He takes a spurious concept (everyone wanted to be like Lance), cites anecdotal evidence (one story of a friend being criticized on a group ride) and then ties it to a lack of bike friendliness for our cities. I'm surprised there's no mention of the IRS scandal in here....
    Welcome to "journalism".

    And having had experience with events that show up above the fold on the front page of big newpapers, it's not any better there, either.

    Pick any 10 random "facts" from a "news" story - 6 will actually be true, 3 will be wrong in some degree, and one will be completely made up out of whole cloth after being pulled out of someone's rectal database.

    Forget political spinning of stories - which does happen, and makes things even worse. The most mundane facts get screwed up.

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    I imagine that most people who wear touring shorts and T shirts just don't like being passed by people wearing touring shorts and T shirts while being over dressed for the occasion.

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