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Darkglasses 05-31-13 09:40 AM

Bradley Wiggins out of the Tour de France
 
Sky Sports News reporting that Wiggo is out of the TDF

Have heard it's due to a knee injury.

ZOINKS 05-31-13 10:34 AM

Froome is doing the happy dance today

Cat4Lifer 05-31-13 10:56 AM

2/3 who finished on the 2012 TDF podium will not be in France in July.
That sucks. Kinda like it sucked in '08. =\

Darkglasses 05-31-13 12:27 PM

Conflicting reports say that his training isn't just badly, but that it's not going at all. Perhaps he's become a fatty?

Zinger 05-31-13 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkglasses (Post 15689253)
Conflicting reports say that his training isn't just badly, but that it's not going at all. Perhaps he's become a fatty?

VeloNews says 2 to 3 weeks off altogether and he's out for the Tour alright.

MinnMan 05-31-13 03:53 PM

There was a lot of talk about him being sick at the Giro, but this is the first I've heard about the knee. Anybody know just what is wrong with his knee? Some of those issues clear up quickly but some linger for a long time.

dblackwood72 05-31-13 06:38 PM

He doesn't want to get embarrassed at the tour like he was getting at the Giro.... Respiratory infection, knee problem, blah blah... sounds like a bunch of excuses. He'll regroup and make a run at the Vuelta.

Froome was going to destroy him anyway... would look bad for a defending champion!

cthenn 05-31-13 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dblackwood72 (Post 15690387)
He doesn't want to get embarrassed at the tour like he was getting at the Giro.... Respiratory infection, knee problem, blah blah... sounds like a bunch of excuses. He'll regroup and make a run at the Vuelta.

Froome was going to destroy him anyway... would look bad for a defending champion!

This is probably so much more close to the truth than illness/knee whatever. The guy won ONE Tour on a course that he could not have hand picked better, and he's starting to think he's invincible. Proof is in him actually thinking he could win the Giro, which is far more tough than the Tour. It would have been better though for Froome, Contador, etc. to put him in his place, now he's just got a convenient excuse, and he can go on thinking he's actually one of the greats.

Caretaker 06-01-13 04:07 AM

Whatever Bradley's problems are I hope he gets over them soon and starts racing again.

He's a very talented rider with a quirkey personality and that's what I like.

Whether he's 'great' or not I'll happily leave to the day he retires for good.

mprelaw 06-01-13 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cthenn (Post 15690983)
This is probably so much more close to the truth than illness/knee whatever. The guy won ONE Tour on a course that he could not have hand picked better, and he's starting to think he's invincible. Proof is in him actually thinking he could win the Giro, which is far more tough than the Tour.

Which is why he probably won't even try to make a run at the Vuelta.

Ken Brown 06-01-13 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Caretaker (Post 15691500)
Whatever Bradley's problems are I hope he gets over them soon and starts racing again.

He's a very talented rider with a quirkey personality and that's what I like.

Whether he's 'great' or not I'll happily leave to the day he retires for good.

I agree. There are GC contenders that I like better than Wiggins (actually, all of them), but I would like to see him racing and doing well (but not winning ;) ).

99Klein 06-01-13 03:20 PM

He had his 15 minutes. Can't believe this is a surprise to anyone. Even last season he was done after the TODD.

dblackwood72 06-01-13 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mprelaw (Post 15692077)
Which is why he probably won't even try to make a run at the Vuelta.

True...

Angio Graham 06-02-13 02:24 AM

flame me all you want, but there are a lot of one hit wonders in cycling. that's why drugs or not, lance armstrongs 7 consecutive tour wins is amazing and will never be beaten.

Caretaker 06-02-13 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dblackwood72 (Post 15693860)
True...

Possibly.

Caretaker 06-02-13 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Angio Graham (Post 15694404)
flame me all you want, but there are a lot of one hit wonders in cycling. that's why drugs or not, lance armstrongs 7 consecutive tour wins is amazing and will never be beaten.

You're ABSOLUTELY correct.

Those wins were amazing and will never be equalled, hopefully.

cycle17 06-02-13 12:31 PM

I'm not a Lance fanboy but PEDs or not, I still consider him the winner of 7 TDF...

chasm54 06-02-13 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cycle17 (Post 15695564)
I'm not a Lance fanboy but PEDs or not, I still consider him the winner of 7 TDF...

Clearly you ARE a Lance fanboy, and a person of poor judgement. Please take your Lance eulogies to the Armstrong thread, and stop stinking out the rest of the forum.

Bacciagalupe 06-02-13 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cthenn (Post 15690983)
The guy won ONE Tour on a course that he could not have hand picked better....

There was nothing exceptional about the 2012 route.


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he's starting to think he's invincible.
Err... wha? Nothing he's ever said or done indicates that he thinks he's "invincible." He's 33, he only has a few elite years left, and I'm sure he knows it. Neither Froome nor Wiggins can be blamed for locking horns over being ambitious enough to want to head up a top team in the most prestigious events in the calendar.


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Proof is in him actually thinking he could win the Giro, which is far more tough than the Tour.
Whatever

Half of what makes a race difficult is the course. The other half is the competition. The Giro has had a more difficult course for the last few years, as the organizers have tried to spice it up. The competition is usually in the elite ranks, but not as tough as in Le Tour. And since this year's Tour route *cough* suits Froome more than Wiggins, it makes sense for Wiggins to focus on the other Grand Tour(s).

And who has won the last few Giros? Nibali, Hesjedal, Menchov, Basso. Wiggins certainly seems in the same cohort as them, and clearly beat Nibali in the 2012 TdF.

Hesjedal has also had a tough go since winning the Giro in 2012 -- he bombed out of both the 2012 TdF and 2013 Giro. None of this indicates that Hesjedal was somehow overrated or a bad rider, or didn't deserve his Giro win, or that he's making excuses.


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It would have been better though for Froome, Contador, etc. to put him in his place, now he's just got a convenient excuse, and he can go on thinking he's actually one of the greats.
I've never heard or seen Wiggins proclaim that he is one of "the greats" of the sport.

His road career has always been plagued by setbacks -- some of his own doing (e.g. not taking cycling seriously enough), and some not (crashing in 2011 TdF).

The bottom line is Wiggins won fair and square in 2012. It wasn't a fluke, and Wiggins was always going to spank Froome in the ITT's. It was a victory earned both by Team Sky and by Wiggins. Just get over it already.

Zinger 06-02-13 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Brown (Post 15692871)
I agree. There are GC contenders that I like better than Wiggins (actually, all of them), but I would like to see him racing and doing well (but not winning ;) ).

I was kind of hoping to see Wiggins and Contador in the same Tour myself.
No hate here for either.

slcbob 06-03-13 05:46 AM

I would have like to see Wiggo show up to le Tour and work for Sky's leader with the same class that Froome did last year. ;)

99Klein 06-04-13 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by slcbob (Post 15697935)
I would have like to see Wiggo show up to le Tour and work for Sky's leader with the same class that Froome did last year. ;)

Yeah, pretty sure that would happen:lol:

Giacomo 1 06-04-13 10:09 AM

Well, Wiggins and his Sky mates won one of the most clinically professional Tour's ever. Yes, it was boring, but run perfectly.

If Cadel, Wiggins and the peloton have been riding clean for the last couple of years, then it might just go to show how tough it's going to be to ever see another repeat winner in the TDF or other major tour. Drugs very likely masked and hid the physical problems and energy lapses we're seeing today. Neither of these riders seem to have been able to bring themselves back into the proper condition, nor bring their teams back to that level again. We're likely to see alot more one-hit wonders in the coming years.

I think Froome has alot of weight on his shoulders and the question will be - can he hack it?

txags92 06-04-13 04:37 PM

Is it really the fact that Wiggins is clean that is keeping him from repeating? Or the fact that Leinders is no longer one of the team docs working with him? We will never know...but those questions have to come up anytime we start discussing whether somebody won clean or not.

Caretaker 06-04-13 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by txags92 (Post 15705051)
Is it really the fact that Wiggins is clean that is keeping him from repeating? Or the fact that Leinders is no longer one of the team docs working with him? We will never know...but those questions have to come up anytime we start discussing whether somebody won clean or not.

On this thread we haven't started, you have.


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