Regarding real-time narrative, I prefer the British personalities. I feel their dialog engaging. I also like any non-English commentary during exciting racing moments. The feeling/meaning comes through despite the not-well-understood (to me) language, being that the activity is the commonality.
I really, though, just rather enjoy watching men strongly riding bikes. As many of us must, commentators included.
Proceed to explain why he called Ted King as a big asset when he was riding with a broken shoulder on a road bike today. And ended up time cut in a time trial.
It looked like it was going to be close idk why he said Sagan was going to take it (Also i'm looking at Sports science to look into that lean at the finishes to see if it is actually faster than just cotinuing with your pedaling. In baseball we learned that diving into first base can actually be slower than just running through the bag regularly) But these announcers are a breath of fresh air from other mainstream sports. I can listen to them for hours as i read while having races on in the background ala Vin Scully. (Now if only this blasted DLP didn't have a bunch of white dots all over it)
I find their accents charming, but hey you can always unplug your Center channel and just get the game/race sound.
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I don't have any strong feelings toward Phil and Paul, but Phil does produce a lot of real head scratchers. Case in point: during the TTT yesterday he stated Contador is a pure climber, and wondered if he could keep up with his teammates for the TTT. Whaaaaaaa? Go home Phil, you're drunk!
In contrast, the wrong calls on riders attacking or being dropped don't bother me as much, as long as they're quickly corrected.
a classic phil moment back in the day was him going utterly berserk over a ron kiefel attack on a mountain stage. only kiefel was OTB and was struggling to connect with whatever was in front of him.
it's tough calling a race from a TV screen, but phil's track record of knowing what's going on isn't very good.
The Scooter - Holy cow, that ball is deep, that ball is going, going...Uhhh, Horace Clark makes the out at second...
That's the way I feel about Phil and Paul. Maybe they miss some things now and then, but who cares? (OK, apparently a lot of people here do!) but they not only call the race, they entertain. When the riders go by a monastery, they know all about the monastery, or a mountain or a statue or town. They give us enough of the strategy and stats, but they don't kill us with it. All-in-all, they are easy on my ears and they entertain me for 4 hrs., just like the Scooter used to...
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When I say he is good at what he does I was referring to the filling of 4 hours of commentary. Yes he gets some facts wrong. I think I stated my position on this. I like the guy. Watching a bike race is entertainment not life and death. I find him entertaining. Others don't. The spice of life.
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Like I always say on these threads, you kids don't know how good you've got it. Anyone complaining about Liggett should be subjected, Clockwork Orange style, to a dozen consecutive hours of Sam Posey and Al Trautwig, with color from Pierre Salinger.
At least today's bike race coverage includes footage of actual bike racing...
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So I'm realizing there is something in Liggett that's annoying me. He keeps interrupting the Moto dude by shouting at him, thereby cutting him off. It's really annoying to hear these guys shouting over each other, and have Phil continually interrupt him "EXCUSE ME STEVE EXCUSE ME I SEE MARK CAVENDISH SHUT UP FOR A SECOND HOLD ON". He's done that repeatedly, and it's getting to the point where I cringe when that guy is talking, expecting Phil to all of a sudden break into his report with unnecessary shouting.
BTW, I think NBC got this one right, putting a guy on a bike to report from inside the race. Really digging that.
I say Phil and Paul are fine. Let's hope their replacements are as good. Not an easy job. Who cares if he calls Sagan the winner. Maybe he was looking out the window and had a bad angle. We saw what happened - that's just Phil.
Sagan riding for 'cannon ball' was priceless. My mom talks like that all the time. So do I on rare occasions.
Okay, other then that, I do think Phil Liggett is a great announcer and has forgotten more about the Tour de France then we will ever know. The job him and Paul do to identify riders just based on a TV screen is darn good even when they can't see the numbers.
But we should be allowed to criticize him (and praise him too!!)