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Old 07-11-13, 06:37 AM   #51
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testing can be for a whole lot of things. biological passports track blood doping markers and are only one of those things.
The UCI has, in fact, done out-of-competition testing at Tenerife. I see no indication that Mallorca is treated any differently.

And if Passport values are suspicious after they finish the training camp, they can still be busted for it, as was Pellizotti.
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Old 07-11-13, 06:46 AM   #52
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Right, so last year he didn't beat Nibali by 3 minutes, Van Den Brouck by 7', TVG by 8, Evans by 12'.... Yeah.

And again, we've basically only had 1 mountain finish and 1 ITT. Yes, the deficits are big, but it's a long race, and Team Sky is not looking anywhere near as strong as last year.

I'm with Bigfred on this one. Last year, tons of Intarnet denizens were screeching like the Furies because Froome was being held back to help Wiggins on a few climbs. Now that Wiggins is out, it suddenly makes no sense that Froome is basically performing as well as he did last year? Really?
There were questions about the Sky train last year too. UK Postal and all that. Remember Wiggo's "w***ers, c***s" outburst when asked about doping? After 2 years (2010, 2011) of close run, competitive tours not dominated by any one team, we suddenly had Sky come in with Wiggins, who'd been a solid top 10 tour rider before but getting on a bit, and Froome, a 27 year old who'd never done much before, and suddenly they're putting minutes into everybody on every climb. It's not a surprise compared to last year, it's this year on top of last year.
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Old 07-11-13, 07:01 AM   #53
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Right, so last year he didn't beat Nibali by 3 minutes, Van Den Brouck by 7', TVG by 8, Evans by 12'.... Yeah.

And again, we've basically only had 1 mountain finish and 1 ITT. Yes, the deficits are big, but it's a long race, and Team Sky is not looking anywhere near as strong as last year.

I'm with Bigfred on this one. Last year, tons of Intarnet denizens were screeching like the Furies because Froome was being held back to help Wiggins on a few climbs. Now that Wiggins is out, it suddenly makes no sense that Froome is basically performing as well as he did last year? Really?
I'm of the opinion that Froome was doping last year too.
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Right, Wiggin gained much of his time in two long time trials. He has long been known as a good time trialist.

Minus his time at sky how many time trials had Froome won?
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Porte lost 17 minutes in a single stage.
Porte, solo, came up one minute short of pulling back the group led first by Garmin-Sharp and then by Movistar. Finally the team concluded that he could not, mostly alone, outride determined GC teams and he soft pedaled the rest of the way, losing serious time. If you're riding in support, and circumstances take you out of contention for a podium or top ten finish, why not save the energy and finish 17 minutes down instead of 7? It's remarkable that he was able to get within a minute or so of the GC group at several points in a chase over many kilometers.
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