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MaliciousPete 07-11-13 09:40 AM

British cyclist Mark Cavendish doused with urine at Tour de France
 
Cavendish, who first thought it was water, made the stomach-turning discovery by tasting the liquid.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/mo...ommentpostform

thenomad 07-11-13 10:53 AM

Best quote ever:
"It ruins the whole atmosphere for the spectators coming to the sport. One individual doing that just leaves a bit of a bad taste in the mouth,” Tour leader Chris Froome said. “And a bad taste in Mark's mouth.”

Zinger 07-11-13 01:33 PM

That's just f****d up. I'm not sure what they could do to prevent stuff like that from happening other than a well deserved a** kicking. I don't know who would have the time to administer that other than bystanding spectators.

rumrunn6 07-11-13 01:41 PM

it's a soft target. they're lucky worse doesn't happen. frankly I think those helicopters get way to close. one rouge gust and it can be a big problem.

HardyWeinberg 07-11-13 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 (Post 15840175)
it's a soft target. they're lucky worse doesn't happen. frankly I think those helicopters get way to close. one [rogue] gust and it can be a big problem.

Yes, it could spray the urine back all over someone else entirely!

Giacomo 1 07-11-13 02:10 PM

As rumrunn said, I'm actually surprised that worse things don't happen.

I mean what other sport can you really get that close to the players? And I have to think that alot of these fans are pretty tuned-up by the time the riders go by, and there is nothing worse than a drunken fan. Anything goes for them...

Wizel603 07-11-13 04:32 PM

I hope that no one has yet made a joke along the lines of Cavendish wearing the yellow jersey by the end of that stage, because that would be tasteless.

SpeshulEd 07-11-13 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizel603 (Post 15840833)
that would be tasteless.

I would guess more salty than tasteless at the end of the stage. :roflmao2:

rumrunn6 07-11-13 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wizel603 (Post 15840833)
I hope that no one has yet made a joke along the lines of Cavendish wearing the yellow jersey by the end of that stage, because that would be tasteless.

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

kenji666 07-11-13 06:06 PM

Was it his A or B sample?

cincipeddler 07-11-13 06:12 PM

Did they ever catch the guy/guys who threw those tacks in the road last year?

i never did hear anything after the event.

Leinster 07-11-13 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giacomo 1 (Post 15840298)
As rumrunn said, I'm actually surprised that worse things don't happen.

I mean what other sport can you really get that close to the players? And I have to think that alot of these fans are pretty tuned-up by the time the riders go by, and there is nothing worse than a drunken fan. Anything goes for them...

Tennis gets pretty close, though I'm sure security at big events has been stepped up since Monica Seles got stabbed by a fan way back when. So yeah, given the way cycling is set up, we're lucky nothing like that has happened.

Shimagnolo 07-11-13 07:11 PM

In the 1975 TdF Eddie Merckx was kidney-punched by some slimeball.

Giacomo 1 07-11-13 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo (Post 15841347)
In the 1975 TdF Eddie Merckx was kidney-punched by some slimeball.

Yup, it seem's TDF fans love a winner, until you win to much!

Jed19 07-11-13 09:15 PM

I don't condone spectators throwing stuff at riders. Having said that, Cavendish threw a shoulder into Vermeer and should have been sanctioned, in my view.

gpsblake 07-11-13 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cincipeddler (Post 15841171)
Did they ever catch the guy/guys who threw those tacks in the road last year?

It was briefly mentioned on the coverage by NBC that they did not catch the guy/gal who did it.

License2Ill 07-11-13 11:40 PM

How does Cavendish know what piss tastes like?

Athens80 07-12-13 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jed19 (Post 15841754)
I don't condone spectators throwing stuff at riders. Having said that, Cavendish threw a shoulder into Vermeer and should have been sanctioned, in my view.

Velonews:
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UCI jury president Vicente Tortajada told Belgian journalists there was no talk of a penalty for the Manxman. “At no time was there a question of relegation or disqualification,” said Tortajada. “We reviewed the sprint many times. Veelers was finishing his work and he pulled off. If it was someone’s fault, it was not Cavendish’s.”
Watch and see: Cavendish' shoulder did not contact Veelers. The helicopter shot from behind looks something like that, yes. That shot also shows Veelers looking down at the pavement and drifting a couple of feet to the right, into Cavendish' line. But look at the coverage from the front. Cavendish is leaning forward, his shoulder in front of Veelers', when their forearms meet. Veelers goes down.

Astrozombie 07-12-13 07:23 AM

That's a beatdown and jail time, was it related to him knocking that guy down the other day? Why would you taste it? And i assumed piss would taste like nothing..............well you learn something new every day:rolleyes:

License2Ill 07-12-13 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Athens80 (Post 15842479)
Velonews:


Watch and see: Cavendish' shoulder did not contact Veelers. The helicopter shot from behind looks something like that, yes. That shot also shows Veelers looking down at the pavement and drifting a couple of feet to the right, into Cavendish' line. But look at the coverage from the front. Cavendish is leaning forward, his shoulder in front of Veelers', when their forearms meet. Veelers goes down.

I just watched it again, because I couldn't believe this assessment, and sure enough, Cav shoves his elbow out at Veelers, just like it looked from behind. The overhead shot shows that not only did he shove his elbow out, but he veered straight left in his path when he did it too.

Athens80 07-12-13 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by License2Ill (Post 15842644)
I just watched it again, because I couldn't believe this assessment, and sure enough, Cav shoves his elbow out at Veelers, just like it looked from behind. The overhead shot shows that not only did he shove his elbow out, but he veered straight left in his path when he did it too.

As I wrote, look at the video from the front. On NBC, you saw this video the next day. The commissaires saw it the same day.

The camera work at the tour can lead you to false conclusions. How many times do you look down the finishing meters and wonder whether so and so is going to get caught from behind, only to see from another angle that so and so's chasers are actually bike lengths behind. You have to use multiple angles to piece together the three dimensional relationships. Look at all the video of the Cavendish-Veelers collision and it looks a lot less like the deliberate take down that many are claiming. I see what the commissaires claim to see; it was an accident and if anything, Veelers contributed to the accident slightly more than Cavendish.

Quote:

Not everyone was throwing blame at Cavendish, however. Robbie McEwen, a former green jersey winner on three occasions and current advisor to Orica-GreenEdge, wrote, “What happened with @MarkCavendish & Veelers was an accident. Cav sprinting & Veelers looking down drifted right. Looks like Tom is ok #tough.” Cavendish’s Dutch teammate, Niki Terpstra, pointed to the late turn toward the finish in Saint Malo: “@letour wanted some spectacle when they decited [sic] to put the finish in a corner with smooth cobblestones.well,they got it!what if it rained?”

whitemax 07-12-13 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jed19 (Post 15841754)
I don't condone spectators throwing stuff at riders. Having said that, Cavendish threw a shoulder into Vermeer and should have been sanctioned, in my view.

What in hell has that got to do with anything? You don't know anymore whether he did than I know that he didn't. The video clearly shows Vermeer moving over to the right. The natural inclination is to move against the guy moving into you especially when in the throes of a full on sprint. Racing sometimes just ain't pretty or for the faint of heart.

Personally, I think Mark should have stopped and beat the daylights out of the guy. People just think they have carte blanche to just behave like animals but they don't and should be disciplined.

License2Ill 07-12-13 08:10 AM

Well, looks like his old lady smartened him up between stages again and he's since had some nice things to say about Kittel and showed some concern for Veelers. You ever notice how they talk about his daughter right around the time he pulls some immaturity? Seems to happen every tour. Anyway, he's still just slightly more likeable than Wiggins or Lance at this point.

HigherGround 07-12-13 01:10 PM

I forget the specific details, but a few years ago, a top cyclocross rider got off his bike and went after a spectator who had been throwing beer at him during a race. And during last year's Tour, Gilbert confronted some spectators as well.


velonomad 07-14-13 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by License2Ill (Post 15842035)
How does Cavendish know what piss tastes like?

Scottish beer.


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