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    Sagan is a great entertainer and has a great career ahead. Who cares if the wheelie has been done in the past? Sagan has panache. Sagan has charisma. The sport needs more personalities.

    On the topic of Sky feeding late...Phil Liggett and Paul Sherwen both made a sting about it during the live transmission. You would figure if anyone, then those guys would know exactly what is going on and what the rules are. Instead I keep hearing them butcher names, make mistakes and now criticize Sky for something that is apparently legal. I dont think these guys are prepared to handle the Tour commentary and get by on their reputation alone. Kind of like Pat Summerall and John Madden towards the end. Maybe its time for a commentary change. This year's commentary has been exceptionally bad. Makes me wonder if all they do is roll in the morning out of bed, watch along with us for 5 hours and then drink French wine all afternoon talking cricket or some other British pastime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boniek1982 View Post
    Sagan is a great entertainer and has a great career ahead. Who cares if the wheelie has been done in the past? Sagan has panache. Sagan has charisma. The sport needs more personalities.

    On the topic of Sky feeding late...Phil Liggett and Paul Sherwen both made a sting about it during the live transmission. You would figure if anyone, then those guys would know exactly what is going on and what the rules are. Instead I keep hearing them butcher names, make mistakes and now criticize Sky for something that is apparently legal. I dont think these guys are prepared to handle the Tour commentary and get by on their reputation alone. Kind of like Pat Summerall and John Madden towards the end. Maybe its time for a commentary change. This year's commentary has been exceptionally bad. Makes me wonder if all they do is roll in the morning out of bed, watch along with us for 5 hours and then drink French wine all afternoon talking cricket or some other British pastime.
    You would think they would know, but apparently not. I agree, they were the ones saying the move was illegal and they should be penalized for it. Probably the reason nothing much was mentioned about it after the race was because it was a legal move. I'm surprised more teams didn't jump on the chance.

    Jack Bauer did one at the summit, but I still think Sagan's was better:
    I'm glad Bauer did one at the end. IMHO, stuff like that make the races more entertaining and fun to watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boniek1982 View Post
    ...hearing them butcher names, make mistakes and now criticize Sky for something that is apparently legal. I dont think these guys are prepared to handle the Tour commentary and get by on their reputation alone.
    yeah, it drives me nuts how often they (Phil especially) screw stuff up. But they do make even the most mundane stages seem exciting somehow.

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    How can anyone say that this is a boring tour?

    Flat stages are normally mindnumbingly boring, yet this year there have been two exciting ones: Cannondales massive pull to drop Cav and Greipel, and then the echelon riding that was simply brilliant, and lost Froome in the mix. The second day in the Pyrennes, with the Dan Martin break away, was nothing if not exciting television. The white jersey contest has been more contested this year than in any year I can remember.

    2012 was dull as watching pudding set up. A tour based around TT's to go easy before the Olympics.

    2011 had one exciting day, when Andy Schleck broke away with two teammates up the road, only to be reeled in by Cadel single handedly. Voeckler did nothing to help that day, and was, IMO, an awful yellow jersey wearer.

    2010 also had one exciting day, with Schleck dropping his chain.

    Professional bike racing is, by its nature, a dull spectator sport, unless you understand and enjoy the strategy that goes into it, and follow all of the other jersey competitions. I have found this year's tour to be far more interesting than the past three.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattFoley View Post
    Jack Bauer did one at the summit, but I still think Sagan's was better:

    Someone posted this one on FB:

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattFoley View Post
    Jack Bauer did one at the summit, but I still think Sagan's was better:

    When you come in a half an hour after the stage winner nobody's going to pay much attention unless you do a circus impersonation.
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    Sagan is a fun guy to watch, and a great handler. Sure his technique to park his bike on the roof rack is over the top, but certainly entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpeters11 View Post
    Sagan is a fun guy to watch, and a great handler. Sure his technique to park his bike on the roof rack is over the top, but certainly entertaining.
    Literally.
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    http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/...-france_292327

    Sagan the ‘Hulk’ promises more hijinks in France


    “We’ve already practiced a few yesterday. I hope it will be funny for you,” Sagan said of possible finish-line celebrations. “Maybe the fans like to see a spectacle. They take their vacations to see the race. They line the roads. They want to see something exciting. It’s also a way of saying thanks to them.”
    Love it.
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    Without Sagan, Contador and Quintana, it would be another Tour de Snore. The ASO should give them cash bonuses and penalize all the others 5 minutes for being boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprince View Post
    Without Sagan, Contador and Quintana, it would be another Tour de Snore. The ASO should give them cash bonuses and penalize all the others 5 minutes for being boring.
    I pretty much agree but the sprint stages, the bus, Kittel, pee throwing and feedbag-gate have added some entertainment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boniek1982 View Post
    Sagan is a great entertainer and has a great career ahead. Who cares if the wheelie has been done in the past? Sagan has panache. Sagan has charisma. The sport needs more personalities.

    On the topic of Sky feeding late...Phil Liggett and Paul Sherwen both made a sting about it during the live transmission. You would figure if anyone, then those guys would know exactly what is going on and what the rules are. Instead I keep hearing them butcher names, make mistakes and now criticize Sky for something that is apparently legal. I dont think these guys are prepared to handle the Tour commentary and get by on their reputation alone. Kind of like Pat Summerall and John Madden towards the end. Maybe its time for a commentary change. This year's commentary has been exceptionally bad. Makes me wonder if all they do is roll in the morning out of bed, watch along with us for 5 hours and then drink French wine all afternoon talking cricket or some other British pastime.
    What a bizarre comment.

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    IS anyone going to start the narrative that they "Don't respect the sport" with antics like this? "They are a touble maker who doesn't do things the right way"

    The supply bags turned out being legal? Wow, there's a facepalm every day with these guys........but still not as bad as Joe Buck and Tim McCarver covering baseball.
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