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    Cycling efficiency has moved to a new level

    Plenty of talk again about drug taking with regard to the leaders of the TDF. Froome has had it mentioned to him and I am not going to say he is not on some P.E.D. but Sky has a policy of making certain that their team is not "Drug" enhanced. I believe them but as I am British-I am bound to.

    Brailsford has stated for years that improvements can be made by looking at the "Science" of cycling. Cutting drag- looking at riders and exploiting their good points- improving the poor ones with better training and even down to the clothing that is worn.

    The article below is on BBC online news this morning so you can see some of the science behind the marginal improvements that can be made and how they can have an effect on winning or losing.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23312810
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    National pride plays a part and hurt pride also.

    I'm starting to find this whole 'debate' mildly amusing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stapfam View Post
    Brailsford has stated for years that improvements can be made by looking at the "Science" of cycling. Cutting drag- looking at riders and exploiting their good points- improving the poor ones with better training and even down to the clothing that is worn.
    I have one name for you; Dr. Geert Leinders.

    He used to be Rabobank's doping doctor, and of course, Brailsford hired him, then dropped him when the outcry came from fans and journalists.
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    Here's 40+ minute Discovery Channel special on how Lance Armstrong used "science" to win all those tours:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N43DcMBL4w8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jed19 View Post
    I have one name for you; Dr. Geert Leinders.

    He used to be Rabobank's doping doctor, and of course, Brailsford hired him, then dropped him when the outcry came from fans and journalists.
    And, as I understand it, he wasn't even on their roster as an official team doctor but as an "adviser" not on their payroll.....A relationship not unlike the one between team USPS and Michele Ferrari. Ferrari, btw, said his results were the work of "altitude training and nutrition".

    I'd like to believe in Froome even if he's not a personal favorite. But with the times he did up AX3 and Ventoux I'm not going to stick my neck out defending him even if he were my favorite.
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    Well has anyone considered the aerodynamics of Chris Froome's arms? They're like bladed spokes! Clearly that gives him an advantage!

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    Barry's not juicing. The ball is juiced. The manufacturers had to get some recognition in this eventually, or how are they going to sell bikes?

    Even Liggett and Sherwen were forced to talk about the oval crank lobe this morning. Follow that with some chocolate milk and innocence has arrived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinrobot View Post
    Here's 40+ minute Discovery Channel special on how Lance Armstrong used "science" to win all those tours:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N43DcMBL4w8

    I remember thinking, isn't an enlarged heart a bad thing? Like isn't that a symptom of long-term drug abuse? Nope, we were supposed to be amazed by his body's ability to move blood. In the end, it's all a freakshow and physics is always the winner of the race whether it came naturally or not.

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