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cincipeddler 07-18-13 09:42 AM

Strange that he changed bikes for sure.....makes you wonder why they announced they would be weighing bikes, as if they knew something.

Froome will get away with any punishment, which is quite ridiculous really, surely the guy gaining the advantage from eating should be the one docked time not the one who made his dinner?

Either way, nothing will happen, a blind eye as always to the powerful teams.

alongclimb 07-18-13 09:58 AM

Froome was fined a mighty 20 seconds

HardyWeinberg 07-18-13 10:04 AM

The should charge him the time TJ lost on Riblon, that's a measurable bonk

Laggard 07-18-13 10:12 AM

Clearly Riblon is doping.

colombo357 07-18-13 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Laggard (Post 15863797)
Clearly Riblon is doping.

I agree wholeheartedly.

As we learned from the highly sophisticated methods that BF members used to gauge performance in the Chris Froome thread, the 2nd place rider is ALWAYS at the upper limit of clean riding. Always.

cincipeddler 07-18-13 10:40 AM

Be smart all you want, but we have seen today how team skys ethics work.

If you bonk, its part of the race, you just take it and fight on, sky on the other hand don't give a monkeys and just go feed the problem, to me that shows they have zero respect for the tours standing and even less respect for fellow riders.

RJM 07-18-13 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy (Post 15863621)
"The race referees have announced that any rider with a black jersey will be allowed to feed with 4 kilometers to go. This will be broadcast on a scrambled radio channel to be announced to select members of the inner circle. That is all. "

I expect something like this to come out. The time fine should be large, IMHO.

cincipeddler 07-18-13 10:52 AM

Got a 20 second fine.

Bet Teejay is wishing he didn't have decency and respect for the tour now and cheated his way to a victory.

thechemist 07-18-13 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RJM (Post 15863944)
I expect something like this to come out. The time fine should be large, IMHO.

I heard 20s

BluesDaddy 07-18-13 10:58 AM

Froome has such a lead, I'm going to mentally block him and watch Contador, Quintana, Kreuziger and Rodriguez to see who makes the lower 2 steps on the podium. That's a race.

cincipeddler 07-18-13 11:04 AM

Same here, got to fancy Quintana and Rodriguez to be 2nd and 3rd now, Rodriguez now looks very good after a sluggish start to the tour.

The polka dot jersey is up for grabs too, will expect a full on assault on that tomorrow by a few i imagine, personally i hope someone, maybe Contador has a pop on the first climb just to see how well Froome has recovered after today, not that i expect anything to come from it but if he blew up on the first climb then who knows?

Parson 07-18-13 11:29 AM

When Froome is asked if he's doping, he usually responds by saying "I don't cheat". Well, he can no longer respond that he doesn't cheat.

There needs to be more than a 20 second penalty to stop that sort of thing from happening again.

jambreck 07-18-13 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by cincipeddler (Post 15863922)
Be smart all you want, but we have seen today how team skys ethics work.

If you bonk, its part of the race, you just take it and fight on, sky on the other hand don't give a monkeys and just go feed the problem, to me that shows they have zero respect for the tours standing and even less respect for fellow riders.

Sky took the risk that their rider would be heavily penalised. If the punishment is insufficient (and it does appear to be), then the blame lies with the race officials.

Don't bleat on about ethics (especially not in the context of professional cycling, of all sports). All the teams would do whatever it takes to help their riders win the TDF. Naive to think otherwise.

cincipeddler 07-18-13 11:41 AM

If thats the case why didn't bmc feed tj? Surely its an unwritten rule, like waiting for someone who has a mechanical during an attack? You take whats coming, if it means you suffer, so be it? I have seen a thousand riders crack on a mountain stage, but have never seen any of them immediately cheat their way out of it.

simongrant 07-18-13 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cincipeddler (Post 15864164)
If thats the case why didn't bmc feed tj? Surely its an unwritten rule, like waiting for someone who has a mechanical during an attack? You take whats coming, if it means you suffer, so be it? I have seen a thousand riders crack on a mountain stage, but have never seen any of them immediately cheat their way out of it.

Next time froomestrong will just grab onto a police motorcycle, oh he's done that already,time for more new teamsky 'science'

Leinster 07-18-13 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cincipeddler (Post 15864164)
If thats the case why didn't bmc feed tj? Surely its an unwritten rule, like waiting for someone who has a mechanical during an attack? You take whats coming, if it means you suffer, so be it? I have seen a thousand riders crack on a mountain stage, but have never seen any of them immediately cheat their way out of it.

He would almost certainly have been demoted in the stage standings.


Actually, there's a question; usually when a sprinter gets dq'ed for bumping another sprinter, he gets demoted to last place on the day (but same time he arrived). If that applied here, would Froome get similarly demoted for today's stage? Obviously wouldn't make a difference overall, but would matter towards green and, especially, polka dot jersey standings.

jambreck 07-18-13 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leinster (Post 15864186)
He would almost certainly have been demoted in the stage standings.

This.

Bacciagalupe 07-18-13 12:16 PM

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Surely its an unwritten rule, like waiting for someone who has a mechanical during an attack?
No. It's a written rule, where if you ask or accept an illegal feed, you get a penalty. Both Porte and Froome took a penalty, I wouldn't be surprised if there were financial as well as time penalties.

And no, this isn't a horrendously disrespectful breach that is like stabbing Le Tour in the heart with a stale baguette. It's a minor infraction, it was pretty obvious, and they got busted for it. BFD.

cincipeddler 07-18-13 12:25 PM

Such a minor infracrtion we have seen all the greats do this very same thing again and again.........oh wait, no we haven't because its bad sportsmanship.

simongrant 07-18-13 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacciagalupe (Post 15864292)
No. It's a written rule, where if you ask or accept an illegal feed, you get a penalty. Both Porte and Froome took a penalty, I wouldn't be surprised if there were financial as well as time penalties.

And no, this isn't a horrendously disrespectful breach that is like stabbing Le Tour in the heart with a stale baguette. It's a minor infraction, it was pretty obvious, and they got busted for it. BFD.

maybe but it shows they are prepared to cheat to win and will likely dope to win also.

RJM 07-18-13 12:28 PM

20 seconds is weak.

Laggard 07-18-13 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simongrant (Post 15864185)
Next time froomestrong '

Wow. You sure are witty.

RJM 07-18-13 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simongrant (Post 15864330)
maybe but it shows they are prepared to cheat to win and will likely dope to win also.

I agree with the bolded part....I think we will find out the doping part in a decade.

adamdunn 07-18-13 12:33 PM

I think i'm in the wrong forum, there don't appear to be any cycling FANS here

Barrettscv 07-18-13 12:34 PM

What caused Tejay's mechanical issue? Dropped chain?


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