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    Valverde's 10 minute mechanical

    I didn't see what happened near the beginning of the tour where Valverde lost 10 minutes due to a broken wheel, or whatever, but I understand he had to wait for the team car to do a wheel swap. His team was all around him, why didn't someone give him their wheel or bike if he was the team captain? Is there a rule against that? Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by awsimons View Post
    I didn't see what happened near the beginning of the tour where Valverde lost 10 minutes due to a broken wheel, or whatever, but I understand he had to wait for the team car to do a wheel swap. His team was all around him, why didn't someone give him their wheel or bike if he was the team captain? Is there a rule against that? Thanks!
    Alan
    He might have done better if he'd gotten a teammate's wheel or bike right away and started riding. But he didn't lose ten minutes just from waiting for the team car. They couldn't rejoin the GC group on their own because of the wind, and eventually fell back to a group behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athens80 View Post
    He might have done better if he'd gotten a teammate's wheel or bike right away and started riding. But he didn't lose ten minutes just from waiting for the team car. They couldn't rejoin the GC group on their own because of the wind, and eventually fell back to a group behind.
    Gotcha. That makes sense.

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    I thought he did take a teammate's wheel? He should've just taken the bike because the peleton was moving at a 35mph clip at that point. That's why he lost so much time, the team could never catch back up to the split peleton. That was the same day the peleton was split in two due to crosswinds after the breakaway. He only lost like 3 minutes on the fix, but they got pushed further back trying to catch back up to the front.

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    Riding someone else's bike for any distance would suck. Then he'd need to stop again for a bike change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homebrew01 View Post
    Riding someone else's bike for any distance would suck. Then he'd need to stop again for a bike change.
    Yeah, this is true, but he likely wouldn't have lost the group if he did that, instead being able to swap out once a team car got back to him. It wouldn't have had the same effect on time at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by License2Ill View Post
    Yeah, this is true, but he likely wouldn't have lost the group if he did that, instead being able to swap out once a team car got back to him. It wouldn't have had the same effect on time at that point.
    The problem was the cross wind. When you have a significant cross wind and echelons forming, you've got little time to react. Cavendish, who made the lead echelon, said you had 5 seconds, or you'd never make it.

    Valverde had the mechanical at precisely the wrong time. Even if he got a bike in 15 seconds he wasn't making the lead echelon.

    In that condition, you either make the echelon, or you're f'd.

    Experienced bike racers know where on a course you have conditions for this, and are prepared to react. ( see e.g. Hincapie and Armstrong f'ng over Contador a few years ago). YOu've got to be upfront turning into a cross wind section. Valverde was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
    You could fall off a cliff and die.
    You could get lost and die.
    You could hit a tree and die.
    OR YOU COULD STAY HOME AND FALL OFF THE COUCH AND DIE.

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