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Ken Brown 08-27-13 02:54 PM

Intelligent announcers needed at Universal Sports
 
Spoiler below

Nibali gained 6 seconds on Chris Horner in Stage 4 of the Vuelta, taking over the red jersey by 3 seconds. Schlanger and Gogoluski (sp?) didn't think it was possible and ran a replay comparing the seconds between the two. It was not 6 seconds. But both failed to understand that Nibali got the same time as the first person in his group while Horner got the same time as the first person in his group. Come on guys, understand how scoring works.

Now I think there is an argument that there was not a significant gap between the two groups, but that is not what they were arguing. I thought it looked like a one-second+ gap between Moreno and Cancellera, and another 1+ second to the Nibali group, but they all got the same time as Moreno, and I thought there was less than a second between Nibali's group and Horner's, but the camera angle might have skewed those gaps. I see possible grounds for appeal there, but not using the announcers' flawed logic.

Cat4Lifer 08-29-13 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken Brown (Post 16004793)
Spoiler below

Nibali gained 6 seconds on Chris Horner in Stage 4 of the Vuelta, taking over the red jersey by 3 seconds. Schlanger and Gogoluski (sp?) didn't think it was possible and ran a replay comparing the seconds between the two. It was not 6 seconds. But both failed to understand that Nibali got the same time as the first person in his group while Horner got the same time as the first person in his group. Come on guys, understand how scoring works.

Not sure how Todd Gogulski managed to became a pro-cyclist without knowing how scoring works in cycling.
Weird.

Caretaker 08-29-13 05:40 AM

If it was Nibali losing out to Horner would they have made such a fuss?

They were just playing to their audience IMO.

canam73 08-29-13 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken Brown (Post 16004793)
Now I think there is an argument that there was not a significant gap between the two groups, but that is not what they were arguing. I thought it looked like a one-second+ gap between Moreno and Cancellera, and another 1+ second to the Nibali group, but they all got the same time as Moreno, and I thought there was less than a second between Nibali's group and Horner's, but the camera angle might have skewed those gaps. I see possible grounds for appeal there, but not using the announcers' flawed logic.

I believe the six seconds is the gap between the first guy in Nibali's group (Moreno) and the first guy in Horner's group (Nerz).

cafzali 08-29-13 08:03 AM

The only intelligent coverage of cycling I've seen is on Eurosport. Sometimes I watch the online feeds they have for races even when I can get U.S. coverage because I can't stand Todd Gogoulski.

As an aside, why the hell they feel compelled to wear headphones inside a studio as if they're covering an outdoor event where traditional IFBs (earpieces for anchors) is beyond me.

Ken Brown 08-29-13 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cafzali (Post 16010357)
As an aside, why the hell they feel compelled to wear headphones inside a studio as if they're covering an outdoor event where traditional IFBs (earpieces for anchors) is beyond me.

They don't want you to know that they are not in Spain. The announcer who filled in for Schlenger on Saturday made a boo boo and said "here in the states...".

cafzali 08-29-13 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Brown (Post 16012101)
They don't want you to know that they are not in Spain. The announcer who filled in for Schlenger on Saturday made a boo boo and said "here in the states...".

You may be right, but it's painfully obvious they're sitting in a windowless room in California. That's why using those headsets looks even more ridiculous. When you're in a studio and not outside in a loud environment, a standard IFB is what any decent broadcasting operation would do. All networks that broadcast cycling use the same feed that's arranged by the event organizer. So it's actually very common for cycling commentators to not actually be on site at the event they're covering.

They really should merge Universal Sports and Versus and get rid of the rodeo junk and some of the paid programming on Versus. On the plus side, at least the video quality on Universal Sports has improved.


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