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    Women's Race at TDF

    So I didn't see this posted over the weekend, thought it was pretty neat.

    WOMEN'S RACE TIMED FOR TOUR DE FRANCE FINISH

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    I would very much like this. I like cycling and I like girls. I find men in spandex somewhat of an awkward thing, women on the other hand ! I am sure it is just as good as the racing among men.
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    Great idea. A world dominated by men hasn't exactly made for peace on Earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sced View Post
    Great idea. A world dominated by men hasn't exactly made for peace on Earth.
    Oh man... If you think men are violent, then you don't know women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lsberrios1 View Post
    Oh man... If you think men are violent, then you don't know women.
    Say again...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime

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    Quote Originally Posted by clichty View Post
    So I didn't see this posted over the weekend, thought it was pretty neat.

    WOMEN'S RACE TIMED FOR TOUR DE FRANCE FINISH
    Hopefully it gets televised. We get television coverage of the women's races for the local stage race (Nature Valley Grand Prix) and it's pretty impressive, even if it's a hair slower than the men's race. It can only help the sport to get more people involved, regardless of which chromosomes they have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sced View Post
    That is because women are smart and send men to do the dirty work.

    Anyways, it was supposed to be funny remark since girls can be so catty that they make guys look harmless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sced View Post
    From the article you quoted:
    Additionally, some data shows that while men are more likely than women to use physical aggression overall, rates of physical aggression within the context of dating and marriage tend to be similar for men and women, or that women are even more likely to commit domestic violence against a partner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kc0bbq View Post
    From the article you quoted:
    But maybe there's hope http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOoHEeomnXk

    As for the article, I stopped at "Males committed the vast majority of homicides in the United States at that time, representing 90% of the total number of offenders."

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    "Women's races have had financial difficulties - little television exposure, little media fallout and, as a result, few sponsors," said UCI sport director Philippe Chevallier in a phone interview. "We are working hard so that will change," he said, acknowledging that "it's a long-term job."
    Tranlsation: There isn't enough demand to keep this thing afloat, but by golly we're going to try and fake some!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiggle View Post
    Tranlsation: There isn't enough demand to keep this thing afloat, but by golly we're going to try and fake some!
    The Tour de France feminin failed for lack of sponsorship money.

    This is a glorified crit. Good idea. Better than no women 's race and will be something more for spectators waiting for the TDF finish.

    Unfortunately not a women's grand tour.
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    it's nice to see that the TDF organizers have proudly moved forward into the 20th century...

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    Women deserve better. The sport needs a Billie Jean King.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hueyhoolihan View Post
    it's nice to see that the TDF organizers have proudly moved forward into the 20th century...
    They were well beyond this in the 20th century. The TDF feminin was a real stage race. It didn't work commercially, and got cancelled.

    This rice is nice, but a side show compared to the TDF feminin.
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    Just another race that Vos will dominate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sced View Post
    Women deserve better. The sport needs a Billie Jean King.
    Bike racing is a marginal sport, with a tough sell as a commercial proposition. Women's bike racing all the more.

    If you actually want more for women's bike racing, show up and cheer for the women's pro 123 at your local crit.
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    Mountain bike racing, endurance races and cyclocross all seem more "welcoming" to women.
    Road racing and TDF, in particular... not so good. Not sure about RAAM. I read "Hell on Two Wheels" recently and it didn't paint a rosy picture, in terms of the solo women's race.
    Then again, I got turned off by TDF and road racing a long time ago anyway due to all the doping... I have no idea how much doping happens with top women riders compared to top male riders. I find the yearly Tour Divide mountain bike race much more compelling than TDF.

    I don't race, but I think I should take some time to keep track of local women's races and cheer them on.

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    This can only be a very good thing - looking forward to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KantoBoy View Post
    Just another race that Vos will dominate.
    She would most likely beat a bunch of guys also. Awesome cyclist.

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    I wonder if doping is a problem in female cycling as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lsberrios1 View Post
    Oh man... If you think men are violent, then you don't know women.
    Hahahha true

    i think the world needs to calm down and stop spewing feminist dribble. We get it. Its getting old. Ppl still talk as if women get beaten on a daily basis....


    as for the tdf , not sure id watch it, for the same reasons i dont watch Womens hockey, but i guess i see no reason why it should not exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
    Bike racing is a marginal sport, with a tough sell as a commercial proposition. Women's bike racing all the more.

    If you actually want more for women's bike racing, show up and cheer for the women's pro 123 at your local crit.
    A certain amount of money gets spent. It can be divided up however the race organizers choose. In women's tennis the Grand Slams give equal pay. In cycling they might actually grow the cycling market considerably by giving women equality in high end events. Pro racing is so profoundly eff'ed with all the endless doping it needs a fresh start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sced View Post
    A certain amount of money gets spent. It can be divided up however the race organizers choose. In women's tennis the Grand Slams give equal pay. In cycling they might actually grow the cycling market considerably by giving women equality in high end events. Pro racing is so profoundly eff'ed with all the endless doping it needs a fresh start.
    Women's tennis isn't analogous. People pay to watch women's tennis, and it gets ratings on TV. Neither is true for women's professional bike racing.

    The TDF organIzers tried it and they lost money. They're a for profit organization. If they thought they could make money running a women's tour again, I'm sure they would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
    Women's tennis isn't analogous. People pay to watch women's tennis, and it gets ratings on TV. Neither is true for women's professional bike racing.

    The TDF organIzers tried it and they lost money. They're a for profit organization. If they thought they could make money running a women's tour again, I'm sure they would.
    How much did they lose versus how much they made on the men's tour? How much extra would it cost to start the girls 30 minutes after the boys.

    I like visiting France a lot but it's still a sexist society.
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    Yeah, but what next? Women's basketball?...

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