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    Questions about professional road cycling/the tour de france?

    For riders that are not going for GC classification and mostly

    there to help there team leaders, how do they help their leaders

    by breaking away from the peloton? Both earlier and later in the stage?

    Is it better for your team to be spread out along the course,

    or bunched up and sticking together?

    What type of things can you be deducted points for?

    (ie: blatantly pulling another rider down)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martha Scuderi View Post
    For riders that are not going for GC classification and mostly

    there to help there team leaders, how do they help their leaders

    by breaking away from the peloton? a) a team rider "up ahead: to help with the finish or b) publicity for the team Both earlier and later in the stage? yes, pretty much.

    Is it better for your team to be spread out along the course,

    or bunched up and sticking together? bunched up and sticking together

    What type of things can you be deducted points for? not wearing your number correctly for one, not sure what else. it may not be points, but time penalty's and dollars for sure

    (ie: blatantly pulling another rider down)

    see above

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    It's a different sort of race with a lot of different things going on - you have the GC (yellow) of course, but there are teams who focus solely on getting the green or polka dot jerseys too. Young rider is an honor and of course, the previous day's most aggressive rider gets a fancy number.

    In general, they want to make their team look good and winning a jersey and winning stages are the main ways but not the only way. Teams also form impromptu on-the-road alliances and work together for a myriad of goals, not all of them obvious.

    One reason to get a rider in a breakway is so that your team leader has a helper way up front if he manages to bust off the front. A team mate is obviously a rolling trove of spare parts for the leader, so it's really critical that your leader has team mates as long as possible.

    This whole business of following somebody up a mountain cracks me up - at the speeds I ride, there's no benefit, but those guys go fast enough to draft UP a mountain stage. Incroyable.

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    Time penalties and fines can be had for excessive drafting in the following caravan, holding on to a team car, feeds outside of designated feed zones, there's a laundry list
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    Best online guide I can find.
    The Tour de France: a guide to the basics - Telegraph
    Relates to the 2012 Tour but good general explanation also.
    History is the future

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    You could literally write a book answering these questions. Reading the Race would be a good book to explain bike racing in general (written by BF's own EventServices).

    Teammates can help their leader in a large number of ways. Some of those involve going with a breakaway, and some involve staying with their leader.

    Most obvious way a teammate helps is pulling into the wind, allowing the leader to draft, and save energy. Although it goes much beyond that.

    A domestique in a breakaway can do several things for the leader. The Leader's team has no need or obligation to chase the breakaway if they have a rider in the break. Other teams however need to chase the break ( for fear of losing time, and or the stage) and therefore your rivals are forced to expend energy (and the preservation of energy is crucial over a 3 week tour)

    Also, on a mountain stage, having a rider or riders in the break means that the leader will have more teammates to help him in the mountains when the leaders ultimately catch the break.

    Teammates also help protect the leader by keeping him well positioned in the pack. You want to be at the front of the pack to avoid crashes and to cover attacks. Your teammates will expend the energy necessary to keep you up there.

    You also want to keep the pace of the pack high enough to discourage attacks from other teams. Again teammates help drive that pace to avoid attacks from your rivals.

    You need to deal with attacks from other teams. Teammates can do this in several ways. They can "bridge" up to the break, giving you a ride in the break, compelling other teams to chase the break. Or the teammate in the break may shut down the break (i.e. cause them to give up an go back to the pack) because they know the other teams won't let your team succeed in the break. Or your teammates may pull you up to the break.

    Other ways teammates help are being there to give up their bike to you in the event of a crash or a mechanical problem. They're also there to drop back to the team car to get food and water and bring it back to you, so you don't have to. And they are there to tow you back up to the pack if you have a mechanical problem or a crash.

    There are more ways, and more scenarios in which, teammates help, but those are some of the basics.
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