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    The Left Coast, USA FrenchFit's Avatar
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    Avg size of the TDF Bikes?

    From TV, I'd visibly call it at 52cm...with many of the leader bikes looking smaller.

    If the avg rider height/weight is around 5'10" and 150lbs, assuming they are lying about both to some degree, and seeking the stiffest, lightest, nimbliest set up; logic suggests to me most of them will be on 49cm-54cm bikes.

    Anyone know for sure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrenchFit View Post
    From TV, I'd visibly call it at 52cm...with many of the leader bikes looking smaller.

    If the avg rider height/weight is around 5'10" and 150lbs, assuming they are lying about both to some degree, and seeking the stiffest, lightest, nimbliest set up; logic suggests to me most of them will be on 49cm-54cm bikes.

    Anyone know for sure?
    No, I don't know for sure. But most of the pros ride frames that you or I might consider too small for their heights, because the shorter headtube and consequently exaggerated saddle-bar drop helps them get really low.
    There have been many days when I haven't felt like riding, but there has never been a day when I was sorry I rode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrenchFit View Post
    Anyone know for sure?
    Cycling News has an ongoing series on Pro bikes, here's Froome and lots of others profiled on the website:

    Tour de France pro bike: Chris Froome's Pinarello F8 | Cyclingnews.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandera View Post
    Cycling News has an ongoing series on Pro bikes, here's Froome and lots of others profiled on the website:

    Tour de France pro bike: Chris Froome's Pinarello F8 | Cyclingnews.com

    -Bandera
    That site has some issues. Generally, I expect most sites to rely on team/athlete publicity statements, which I doubt are truthful. Like most sports, I expect the sponser, team, athlete control what information is given to the media and it's tells the story they want to tell. In this instance, I'm not sure it's good PR to release specs on the size of riders bikes that most of us will recognize as woman-sized rides. Whatever, visually most those head tube lengths look about a 1/3 of my bike, and I'm not riding a hybrid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrenchFit View Post
    I expect the sponser, team, athlete control what information is given to the media and it's tells the story they want to tell.
    Uh, sure.
    It's a conspiracy, no way any team would give away super secret information like how tall Froome is.

    It's impossible to verify any of this misinformation, even with the detailed gallery of photos:

    "Critical measurements

    Rider's height: 1.85m (6ft 1in)
    Reach, saddle tip to bar: 59cm
    Drop, saddle top to handlebar top: 12cm
    Saddle height: 80cm
    Stem length: 124mm"

    Top Pros are adapted to ride a much more aggressive position than the local "B" riders, the equipment reflects that.
    Like 12cm of drop to a 59cm reach and a 12cm stem for a 6.1' TDF rider.
    Not really your average "woman-sized ride".

    -Bandera
    Last edited by Bandera; 07-14-14 at 06:20 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandera View Post
    "Critical measurements

    Rider's height: 1.85m (6ft 1in)
    Reach, saddle tip to bar: 59cm
    Drop, saddle top to handlebar top: 12cm
    Saddle height: 80cm
    Stem length: 124mm"

    Top Pros are adapted to ride a much more aggressive position than the local "B" riders, the equipment reflects that.
    Like 12cm of drop to a 59cm TT and a 12cm stem for a 6.1' TDF rider.
    Not really your average "woman-sized ride".

    -Bandera
    No, not really. I'm 2" taller than Froome (though admittedly a lot older) and I ride with 57cm of reach, 2 cm less than him. And my saddle to bar drop is 8cm instead of 12cm. He is seriously stretched out.
    There have been many days when I haven't felt like riding, but there has never been a day when I was sorry I rode.

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    [QUOTE=FrenchFit;16935349]That site has some issues. QUOTE]

    And on the other side of the peloton's size spectrum, but topping out serious watts, the recently wrecked Cavendish:

    Tour de France pro bike: Mark Cavendish's S-Works Venge | Cyclingnews.com

    "Critical measurements

    Rider's height: 1.75m (5ft 8in)
    Reach, saddle tip to bar: 53cm
    Drop, saddle top to handlebar top: 7cm
    Saddle height: 70cm
    Stem length: 140mm"

    Lies, damned lies & statistics or another dainty little ladies machine?
    Pics photo-shopped?

    Put the tin-foil hats away and watch fewer X-files re-runs.
    These are TDF machines for the elite, not the dentists at Starbucks' parking lot "paceline ride" with the same brand stickers.

    -Bandera
    Last edited by Bandera; 07-14-14 at 06:09 PM.
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    wow, didnt expect a 49 cm frame

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    Quote Originally Posted by chasm54 View Post
    No, not really. I'm 2" taller than Froome (though admittedly a lot older) and I ride with 57cm of reach, 2 cm less than him. And my saddle to bar drop is 8cm instead of 12cm. He is seriously stretched out.
    Comfortable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikeYoung View Post
    Comfortable?
    For a TdF pro, perfectly comfortable for long difficult stages and very fast.

    -Bandera
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    Reaction to the OP seems a little harsh in this case. It must be the women's rides comment. I think they are riding smaller listed frames than they would have a generation or 2 ago. For reference, Cavendish's specs are listed. I am also 5'8"...and a quarter. I'm 49 years old with a little paunch. Unlike Cav, I am built closer to a NFL running back than an elite cyclist. Just for fun, I went out and measured 3 of my bikes to compare with the Cav. specs. Here are the specs:

    Rider's height: 5'8.25"
    Reach saddle tip to bar: 53 inches
    Drop saddle top to handlebar: 3-5cm depending on bike
    Saddle height: around 70 inches

    Measurements are almost identical. The difference is my bikes are old steel lugged bikes with level top tubes. All the top tubes are 55-56cm. The ST are 53-56cm. The stems are 8-9cm. The bike with the 53 ST and shorter HT has the most amount of seatpost showing and the 5cm drop. The 56 has the 3cm drop.

    One of the reasons that fit works for me is that I weigh quite a bit more than Cav. A smaller frame and longer stem shifts more of that weight to the front of the bike. Not a good thing for me. I can keep it centered better on the bigger frame/shorter stem. One thing that never seems to get mentioned in these aero posts is how much upper body mass and more body mass in general inhibits the aero position. If I try to get my body level and in the aero position my quads are hitting the pecs and paunch on the upstroke. And in that position, a big neck and trap muscles makes it hard to see down the road. I can't hardly tilt my head back far enough so I end up glancing straight down, then down the road in a continuous cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrenchFit View Post
    That site has some issues. Generally, I expect most sites to rely on team/athlete publicity statements, which I doubt are truthful. Like most sports, I expect the sponser, team, athlete control what information is given to the media and it's tells the story they want to tell. In this instance, I'm not sure it's good PR to release specs on the size of riders bikes that most of us will recognize as woman-sized rides. Whatever, visually most those head tube lengths look about a 1/3 of my bike, and I'm not riding a hybrid.
    You realize there are women of all heights out there. I didn't realize we were all relegated to riding tiny clown bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karenashg View Post
    You realize there are women of all heights out there. I didn't realize we were all relegated to riding tiny clown bikes.
    Your point is well taken; my daughter's road bike was 56cm square until she went fixie. However, I suspect she would regard the avg TDF bike as similar to a clown bike. Just saying.

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