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Old 07-14-14, 06:57 PM   #1
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Conti's Specialized Frame - Truth?

So far there appear to be at least four different stories regarding Conti's bike and at least three came from people supposedly involved. Any guesses what folks are trying to cover up?
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So far there appear to be at least four different stories regarding Conti's bike and at least three came from people supposedly involved. Any guesses what folks are trying to cover up?
Yeah, no bike manufacturer wants to have one of their frames fail in the biggest showcase of the year.

Very bad for sales and contracts...
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trouble is that we will probably never know what happened.

OTOH, what with all the video cameras out there, we may well see something turn up on youtube...
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It's reported that Belkin confirm the collision with the Saxo car where they claim Contador's second bike got broken. The impact knocked a bike off the Belkin car and it hit the windscreen.

http://cyclingtips.com.au/2014/07/ti...ontador-frame/
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So far there appear to be at least four different stories regarding Conti's bike and at least three came from people supposedly involved. Any guesses what folks are trying to cover up?
No one is trying to cover up anything.

Numerous riders saw Contador crash. Saxo was taking risks on a slippery descent, Contador hit something, lost his grip, and went off the bike. The bike was damaged some time after the crash. Not that complex, folks.

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Truth may or may not have come out yet. By his on words a Saxo rider following Conti saw him go down, slid past him about 50 meters, went back and gave him his bike and immediately picked up Conti's (quote) "broken bike" and waved to be sure the team car did not go past him.
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Truth may or may not have come out yet. By his on words a Saxo rider following Conti saw him go down, slid past him about 50 meters, went back and gave him his bike and immediately picked up Conti's (quote) "broken bike" and waved to be sure the team car did not go past him.
True but he also said that Condator was reaching for some food and hit something like a pothole or a rock, and then lost control.

I can't imagine taking my hands off the bars while riding at 70kph. But then again I am only a recreational rider.
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No one is trying to cover up anything.

Numerous riders saw Contador crash. Saxo was taking risks on a slippery descent, Contador hit something, lost his grip, and went off the bike. The bike was damaged some time after the crash. Not that complex, folks.

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That is Nicholas Roche's bike, don't know if that's the one Contador was riding when he went down.
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It's reported that Belkin confirm the collision with the Saxo car where they claim Contador's second bike got broken. The impact knocked a bike off the Belkin car and it hit the windscreen.

Tinkoff Saxo tangle with Belkin bikes identified as cause of snapped Contador frame | CyclingTips
Mystery solved.
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Mystery solved.
So...$20k worth of bikes destroyed in the span of a few minutes? Ouch.
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Mystery solved.
Too simple.

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Mystery solved.
Don't think so. I'm no conspiracy theorist but anytime you get people changing their story that many times in the way that they did sort of screams cover-up.
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Too simple.

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That wasn't the president, that was Mary Jo Kopechne...
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I personally feel like Contador got hit by a car and no one wants to admit it. I think the car on the roof pic was staged after the bike was cleaned up some. Too many stories and too quick to cover up a failure with several lame attempts which obviously showed someone didn't make the calls to correlate the stories before people rushed to cover for the manufacturer. I think after the Tour some things will come out about this.
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I personally feel like Contador got hit by a car and no one wants to admit it. I think the car on the roof pic was staged after the bike was cleaned up some. Too many stories and too quick to cover up a failure with several lame attempts which obviously showed someone didn't make the calls to correlate the stories before people rushed to cover for the manufacturer. I think after the Tour some things will come out about this.
I haven't seen detailed pics of the bike, but shouldn't there be more damage than a broken frame, such as mangled wheels, handlebars, or whatever...
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I haven't seen detailed pics of the bike, but shouldn't there be more damage than a broken frame, such as mangled wheels, handlebars, or whatever...
Consider that we didn't see the bike until over a day later....anything could have happened. Really, who knows...but I LOVES a good conspiracy.

I believe in the linked story it claims that the bike caught on another bike or rack as they passed a car...so where is the damage from that catch, other than the cleanly broken frame? I would also expect to see something else bent (whatever "hooked" on the rack) from that as well.
There is no footage of the wreck, the bike swap, the riding down the road a bit further, nothing but him sitting and changing a shoe after he had already swapped bikes and attempted to ride again.

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I personally feel like Contador got hit by a car and no one wants to admit it.
Why would they hide that, they were thrilled when Hoogerland and Flecha got run off the road into barbed wire a couple years ago.
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Why would they hide that, they were thrilled when Hoogerland and Flecha got run off the road into barbed wire a couple years ago.
"Thrilled" wouldn't be the word I'd use for their reaction to that.

But I think if Contador got hit by a car, he (and Roche, and the other riders who were near at the time) wouldn't be shy about coming forward and saying it.
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Heard today that Alberto is having complications in his recovery process (...stiches came off ... still bleeding..?)
Get well soon, Alberto
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Much as in what are now called cycling’s black years of doping, there is a code of silence among riders, even retired ones, and mechanics and team officials over the issue of carbon bike and wheel durability. The teams and riders exist, in part, to act as powerful marketing tools for bike-makers.

But when they spoke on the condition they not be identified, their stories emerged. Riders described landing on the top, horizontal tube of the bikes during crashes and ending up on the road after their frames splintered and collapsed. Small spills that used to mean, at best, straightening handlebars often require a bike change. Mechanics say they sometimes return the shattered remains of frames to manufacturers in bags intended to hold a single bicycle wheel.
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