..life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes. ― Andy Rooney ...enjoy what's left!
Seeing Nibali ride I have wondered if he is doping. I suspect he is but I also suspect at least 30% of the peloton. Of course I don't know that and want to think they're all racing clean. Until I read about failed tests or evidence surfacing that suggest they are, I choose to believe they are clean.
Skeptical? Or Paranoid?
Assume nothing; Question everything
Although I think that the last two years of this race were more suspicious than this years. I feel it is entirely possible and probable that Nibaldi is riding clean, just riding very well compared to the ones that are left.
"Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." - Leo Tolstoy
Only 9 posts on the stage 15 thread, while we are up to 30 here, and this number will surely grow.
Will cycling fans ever stop flagellating themselves over the doping issue and just revel and enjoy the beauty, speed and tenacity and the glory that the TDF is?
C'mon, save this crap for later, lets talk racing!
It never gets easier, you just go faster. ~ Greg LeMond
Note that when Nibali has attacked he really has not been able to keep piling it on. He has gotten most of it in the first km after attacking and then just holds it.
Perish any man who suspects that these men either did or suffered anything unseemly.
The key here is that you don't need to convince yourself that they aren't doping. You only need to convince yourself that you don't know, and since you don't that shouldn't be such a tall order.
Glass half-empty / glass half-full / glass of delicious beverage -- take your pick.
You have to give him credit. He is doing all he can on the bike to get a victory. He's rolling up his sleeves and getting his hands dirty. And he is taking the race to the other riders. Clean or not, he is working hard and earning his place.
I have no reason to believe bike racing isn't like most every other sport. Most of the athletes will do whatever they can to gain any perceived edge while staying just inside the boundaries of the rules and/or the enforcement abilities. Occasionally straying over the line, especially as enforcement is always improving. I see it just part of sports and it doesn't impact my enjoyment of the contest at hand.
Last edited by jon c.; 07-21-14 at 09:58 PM.
We'll never know until he tests positive but you can't detect blood transfusions (I think). Anyway I'm disappointed Nairo Quintana isn't in the tour this time around. With Froome and Contador out, I think he could have been the favorite.
You'd have to hope that next year's Tour sees Nibali, Quintana, Froome and Contador all fit, in form, and upright (and clean). It could be an epic battle.
I don't think it's today's culture though. I think it's human nature and believe the ancient greek athletes likely were taking potions of herbs or other substances they thought would help.
Speaking of culture shock, I went to my first triathlon about a month ago. Now, I have always been a run and jump athlete involved in traditional sports. But at 49 years old, Father Time and injuries have forced me out of those. So endurance sports are all that's left. So here I am at the triathlon, and all the participants have skeleton bodies with all of the fat stripped off of them. I'm thinking "how do these people make it through the race with no energy reserves?" Then the race starts and these people are popping energy supplements throughout the race like they are crack addicts! I'm thinking WTF, I thought these were supposed to be endurance events. That's the definition of a PED if I ever saw one. Take away the energy supplements and how far could these zombies go?
Sorry for the thread hijack.
The field is really weak, it's not strange at all that he's dominating. You should start wondering when he outclimbs Froome, Contador or Quintana by 4+ minutes.
If the other guys are stupid or crash, tough sh##.
Having been a bike racer, I appreciate the effort EVERYONE is making and realize that the same bad stuff can happen to Nibali.
People should appreciate what is being done instead of whining about what's not occurring.
want to see something that really sucks??
Indianapolis 500 final lap - 29 May 2011 - JR Hildebrand crash - YouTube
BTW...be sure to watch 30 in 30 tonight on ESPN at 8pm
I AM IN THE BIKE BUSINESS!!!
In the Bike Business, I am!!!
I meant 4+ in the whole race.
Also, where have I said that Nibali is an undeserving winner? Luck is a part of it, just like bike handling skills and countless other factors. I've just said that the fact that he outclimbs Alejandro Valverde who has never in his whole career been good in the Tour de France and bunch of other guys who are not among best climbers in the world doesn't mean that he's doping
I hate to break it too you, but none of them are clean.
Everyone's a roadie, they just might not know it yet.