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Old 07-25-14, 07:58 AM   #51
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Oh come off it the pair of you. There's none of us not cynical about what has happened and/or is happening in cycling, but even with the sport's history you can't just pin every good performance on drugs. Nibali was most people's 3rd favourite before this race began, and 1 and 2 crashed out. He's a good GC Rider who found himself up against a weak field. Nobody's ruling out the possibility that he might be on something, but it's tiresome to have people assume that's the only reason he's been so dominant.

I think looking at the climbing times, compared with the height of the 90's EPO era, it's safe to say that the current testing systems are making a difference, in that while there's no doubt that there are still dopers in the peloton, at least they're toning it down a bit.
Nibali's hollow victory is the only reason why he won't be immediately lumped with the past obvious dopers who could beat the tests : Armstrong, Virenque, Riss, Ullrich, Vinokourov, Leblanc, Zabel, etc.
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Old 07-25-14, 08:07 AM   #52
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Yea ..... shades of domination not seen since the Lance Armstrong days .... I like Nibali, but after watching this Tour unfold I' m thinking Astana has something proprietary and "new" going on. Come on, really, the only guy wearing yellow to win four non TT stages since the immortal Eddy Merckx. Looks like he can win the hardest stages against the best riders in the world whenever he feels like it. Interesting, if not overtly suspicious. Specially after Vinny calls him the "Boss", LOL.

Ya' gotta' just know WADA is scrambling to find out what's goin' down.
Yep, sadly it feels like like Nibbs might have a big ol bottle of some new "go juice" stashed somewhere....
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Yep, sadly it feels like like Nibbs might have a big ol bottle of some new "go juice" stashed somewhere....
Every GC winner in the last several years (Well, not if you count Schleck...) has placed very well in the ITT, most considerably better than Nibali. Contador won ITTs outright, beating riders like Cancellara or Tony Martin.
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