Iwannakno

Hey guys! Newbie here on the forum. I've been doing some Google searches and I can't find much feedback on the new Raleigh Stuntman bike. Doing a search on the forum, I know there are a couple of people that ride the bike. Just wondering if I could pick your brain for some feedback on it. Borderline obsessed with the bike haha. And the money is burning a hole in my pocket. Convince me!! Thanks in advance.

Edit: Ahhhh dammit. I meant riders. I tried changing the title, but the edit doesn't seem to catch.

trail_monkey

I will bite since no one else will. I know nothing about that bike but I looked it up and the specs look nice. If your looking for a nice gravel bike and have money burning a hole in your pocket why don't you check out the Kona sutra KONA BIKES | ROAD | SUTRA | Sutra LTD

I have never ridden one BUT I almost bought the bare frame a few months ago in my quest for a new gravel ride. I have heard nothing but great things about Kona and after talking to one of their techs on the phone I realized they used pretty damm good tubing in their frames (double butted chromoly) compared to others such as Surly and Salsa which just use straight wall 4130 tubing. Now from what I have heard Reynolds 631 (the steel the stuntman uses) is a really fine steel in its own although I am not sure how it compares to double butted.....

The Kona has a nice touring geometry as well which will make it very comfortable on longer rides. The Raleigh has more BB drop which is a nice thing but the Kona still has plenty of drop to be comfortable. The Kona has a longer tt length so you can use a shorter stem with some wider bars (cowbells) and get more control. Lastly the Kona appears to be about $500 cheaper for the same brakes and drivetrain, same hubs, maybe better rims?, better cranks (race face vs Sammox?), and I believe better tubing (although that's just my opinion).

ckindt

I have a stuntman and love it. It's long, low and stable; great for gravel. It can be had for 1500 if you join the corporate member program (anyone can join). I wouldn't have bought it at full retail.
The cranks are ok. Something to upgrade if you must have a matching group. I might, but I'd like to put more miles on the otherwise capable crank.

Oh, and the Kona doesn't come in adult sizes; 62. It's max size is 58. Otherwise it looks like a contender.

trail_monkey

This just shows you how good my memory is! I forgot that ck told me this morning he had this very bike. It's been a long day lol! He'd know more than I would.

Hiro11

I love the look of this bike. Thru-axles, Rival 1x hydro, threaded BB, dropper post and excellent Clement 50mm tires. I even like the paint. However, at full retail $2,500 I'm not sure it's the best option. If you can still get in the corporate program, go for it. Otherwise, there might be some better options out there. I really like the look of the Ritchey Outback, Kona Sutra LTD and the Ti BikesDirect gravel offering.

ckindt

Mine came with 50c MSOs, although it's specified with LXVs. Try finding 50c MSOs. You can't - must be OE only.

You're right on the 2500; I don't think it's worth more than 2000 retail and at 1500 it's a very good deal. Even the dropper post is kind of cool. You need a fork pump to refill it's pneumatic actuator.

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trail_monkey

That's nice! what size chainring?

ckindt

It comes with a 40t ring and an 11-42t cassette.

Canker

Do you blast that when you ride it?

ckindt

Duh, of course I do.

Iwannakno

Ahhhh this is awesome. I went to bed with nothing and woke up with this gold mine. Thanks a lot guys. I did get a chance to sign up for the corporate discounts. It sucks that there isn't any I can test ride around me. But I'm really digging it. Its either this or the rxm. Even Raleigh's "bike selector" is pushing me to those two bikes. I have money to burn and I'm just gonna pull the trigger!!woohoo

mstateglfr 

Thoughts-
- I would consider it if purchased thru the Raleigh corporate discount. At full price I wouldn't go near it, but that's just personal preference.
- a 40t single ring is simplified, but I think it would be limiting for me due to the large jumps in the cassette.
- nicely spec'd bike for the corporate discount price.


So a small but key clarification- surly and salsa use butted tubing. The LHT has a double butted main triangle per surly's site. Long Haul Trucker | Bikes | Surly Bikes
I read a lot that surly uses heavy plain gauge tubing and am not sure where that came from. It often times isn't lightweight, but they don't market lightweight.
Salsa tubing, like surly, is butted and shows as such on their site. The Vaya and Fargo are triple butted.

As for 631 steel, its quality air hardened, and Raleigh advertises the frame as custom butted which typically means the hitting varies by tube, by frame size, or both.

trail_monkey

My bad I appologize. I think when I was talking to Kona they were telling me that Surly and Salsa used straight 4130. I know my Somas use DB Tange Prestige and are lighter than my friends Surly frames and I always assumed that was due to the fact that you were comparing straight wall to DB. I am not knocking Surly or Salsa as they obviously make good stuff.

mstateglfr 

Wow that's really messed up that Kona would speak so poorly, and incorrectly, about the competition. Unfortunate for sure.

ckindt

Both are great bikes with very fair prices with the corp discounts, but each bike is uniquely different.

If I were riding more road then gravel or racing cross, I'd lean towards the RXM and even consider the Tamland.
If I were riding mostly gravel then I'd consider the Stuntman.

They both use the same 631 steel frame; the RXM is set up for a quicker response (snappier as Raleigh describes it) and the Stuntman's approach is stability.

Both use thru-axle front and back.

RXM - more aggressive geometry - faster response and may be more twitchy on loose fast descents.
- Higer bottom bracket
- Shorter wheelbase
- Shorter chain stays
- Lower stack (mostly due to higher BB)

- mechanical disk brakes (maybe more desirable by some for ease of maintenance)
- Saddle is a winner out of the box - brooks cambium
- not sure max tire size - guessing up to 45c - comes with 33c MXPs

- carbon fork - will be lighter then stuntman

- drivetrain is 2x - better for tighter gear spacing
- cassette is 11-28t and low ring is 36t - Lowest gear inch out of the box is about 35 - that's pretty high if you have alot of hills

Stuntman - more predictable and stable - better for long gravel rides and less technical riding
- lower bottom bracket
- longer wheelbase
- longer chain stays
- higher stack

- hydro disk brakes
- Saddle is generic Velo
- dropper seat post - cool, but jury is out if it's truly beneficial
- fits up to 2" tires - spec is 2.1" LXVs, but mine came with 50c MSOs

- big-*ss aluminum fork - tough

- drivetrain is 1x - bigger jumps between available gears, but less stuff to mess with.
- cassette is 11-42t and ring is 40t - Lowest gear inch out of the box is about 27.5 - pretty good for most hills.

Iwannakno

The brakes was one of the bigger differences believe it or not of why I initially wanted the tamland. Being newer to this, I'm not the best at fixing anything yet. So the simpler the better. But to be completely honest, I just like the way the Stuntman looks,for whatever that is worth.

I know there are differences in geometry, the way they handle, etc but when it comes down to it, I just wanna have fun and have a bike to take with me wherever I might wander. Haha or get lost in. I live in Southern California and we have an abundance of different terrain here.

09box

This looks like a fun bike to get lost on..

Christobevii3

I really like mine. I ordered with the Raleigh corporate cost and the rear derailleur came damaged. I was able to email, get a quick response, and they covered the cost of a local dealer to inspect (took me over a month to drive up to one 60 miles out) and touch up paint.

I love the simplicity and comfort of the bike. The part that sold me it over a lower tameland was the better wheels and the kona sutra nobody carried. The wheels came already tubeless taped, just pulled the tubes, put tubeless valves in, sauce, and pumped up.

I really recommend Raleigh after how they didn't accuse me of damage instantly or make me return it and wait a month for a replacement.

09box

Sweet looking bike!

athrowawaynic

I'd buy it through corp. account.

Nicely specced.

But... did they steal the paint pattern from the Niner RLT9?

shoota 

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't their website say the Stuntman can only have a single chainring crank? I'd consider this bike more if I could have a double up front.

athrowawaynic

I don't see that anywhere. I also just asked the Raleight rep in the chat box, and he said it can be done.

There's no braze-on for the front mech, but the seat tube looks round, so you should be able to install a band-on. It would require a new left shifter, the front mech, and possibly new crankset though? (Don't know enough about the 1x rival crankset.)

EDIT: Ohh... but the cable routing...

shoota 

eTap

edit: this is where I got that info: https://www.gravelcyclist.com/bicycle...monster-cross/
But I think you're right "designed exclusively for 1x setup" doesn't mean it's impossible to put a double on there. just gotta get creative.

shoota 

So what's the Corporate Code?

mstateglfr 

CYCLE4PERK

same code, currently, as diamondback.