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Old 10-11-05, 04:21 PM   #1
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in 1989 did tire size matter?

IM selling what i was told was a 1989 Bottechia CX bike guy bids 50.00 on it (has all campy parts except the derailers which are shimano XT's)

asks me if the tires are 700m or 26" and if they are not 700 its not a cx but a mountian bike.

I dont know!!! its been crated hes getting it right now for $50.00 Its all i can do to remove his bid and toss that bike into sarasota bay.

so the question is despite people here telling me its CX and the bike shop owners telling me its CX because in 1989 it might have had 26" tires instead of 700 does that make it CX or MT?

item number 7188401002

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Old 10-12-05, 11:23 AM   #2
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I saw your ebay listing last week, and I noticed the 26 inch wheels and was wondering what was up with that. Very curious.

Mountain bikes were becoming very popular by 1989, even in Europe. So, it's possible that this is one of Bottechia's first mountain bikes. It's set up the way a mountain bike would be in 89, although the tires would be fatter and knobbier.

Or, maybe Bottechia made a cyclocross bike with 26 inch wheels for some reason, and somebody put flat mountain-bike type handlebars on it. It may even be a custom built frame. The stem looks newer than 1989, as do the rims, so it looks like somebody has been tinkering with the bike some.

Fact is, you could use it in a cross race. 50 bucks is a great price, but isn't your shipping charge 150 bucks? 200 total is a bit steep for a curious bike with rust on it.

Don't throw it into the bay - if this sale doesn't work out, take those campy parts off and sell them individually. I'll bet you could get 50 bucks just for the crank.

Good luck!

edit - sorry, I just read your explanation for the 125 dollar shipping charge. Looks like you have already taken some flak for that.

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Old 10-12-05, 01:02 PM   #3
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I looked pretty carefully at that bike and it's a real question mark.

The headbadge, the decals and the paint job are '89/'90 Bottecchia but the fork, the frame and the everything else about it isn't up to snuff.

I remember that there was a local (San Francisco) painter who was painting old junk bikes (mid-range Japanese bikes) in LeMond colors to sell them about that time.

I imagine that's similar to what you have there.

YOU weren't misrepresenting the bike. And 26" wheels or not it is little more than a cyclocross bike anyway.
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Old 10-13-05, 05:50 PM   #4
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It was looked at by the people at villiage bikes its a botteccia not something else made to look like one.

IM preety sure that Don would have known the difference too and wouldnt have ridden it unless it was ..what we..think it is

you know how some bikers can be particular... he was VERY particular about his rides
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Old 10-13-05, 05:55 PM   #5
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shipping was a flat 125 the first time and included the crateing and cleaning charge of $50.00 which left $75 to ship it anywhere in the cont US

I thought it was reasonable.

I noticed since then people charge $25 for boxing I was charged 35 and 15 for the cleaning. I wasnt trying to make money on the S&H jsut charging what i was being charged

I saw there was some confusion and so i changed it.. hopeful it seems more like a value now. I had hoped to get $200 for it which should be resonable since i have seen the used frame in the same shape bring $300.00 + shipping

more importnatly Id like to see it get into the hands of someone who will ride it rather than part it out.
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Old 10-14-05, 07:57 AM   #6
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It was looked at by the people at villiage bikes its a botteccia not something else made to look like one.

IM preety sure that Don would have known the difference too and wouldnt have ridden it unless it was ..what we..think it is

you know how some bikers can be particular... he was VERY particular about his rides
I don't know ANY European bike in 1989 that was using welded tubes. Most especially it seems odd that Bottecchia would since they were one of the top marques at that time and welded construction was considered cheap crappy American supermarket bike construction. Moreover, the fork was unicrown and that was NOT Italian by any stretch of the imagination since it has only been the last couple of years when you could get those in Europe.

It was 5 years later before Bridgestone would use welded construction and the Italians were long after that.

I suppose it's possible that Bottecchia licensed out their name to some Taiwanese manufacturer. It would have been interesting to know if it used an Italian or an English bottom bracket.
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Old 10-15-05, 06:36 AM   #7
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Bike sold for 128.00 a used frame sold for 265 + shipping only on ebay can you get a whole bike for less than a used frame

I just hope michaelthomas is a fourm member becuse that would be ok... I kinda felt the bike should have brought $200.00
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