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Old 12-13-05, 03:57 PM   #1
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Help me choose one - Kelly or Gunnar?

I am torn between the 2 bikes. Assume price is similar and not in the picture. Would you advise me to get the Kelly which has disc mounts ONLY, or a Gunnar Crosshairs which is cantis only?

I am leaning towards a disc frame, but I really like the reputation of Gunnar/Waterford. I have a Waterford and am very confident of their quality. I am fine with either road or mtb components, so the 135mm spacing of the Kelly does not bother me. I would prefer a 1 1/8 headset size though, which the Gunnar has. The Kelly uses a 1" headset. As you can see, I am swinging on a see-saw!

Usage - commuting, touring, general all-rounder. No racing.

I would post this either in the touring or the commuting forum, but I guessed that the Cyclocross forum would be more familiar with these brands?

Many thanks! zzxxyy
ps. I have done searches but am still undecided.
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Old 12-13-05, 08:46 PM   #2
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If I didn't have any other factors other than brand to consider, I would go with the Gunnar because of their rep, quality, and they are just awesome bikes! Plus, you can do the custom color and get yourself a one of kind bike that you are almost guaranteed to never see someone else riding. But......since you are wanting this bike for commuting etc., I am guessing this is gonna be an all weather bike so I would probably look into the Kelly because you have the disc mounts. Disc brakes are gonna be a better choice IMO for an all weather bike because you are going to run into rain and they will perform just as well in the rain as they do in the sunshine! Good luck!
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Old 12-13-05, 11:37 PM   #3
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Tough choice. My brother owns a crosshairs and really likes it. He does club rides, centuries and races at the local cross scene all on the crosshairs. That being said, I like Kelly. More so because we do not see many of them here in the Pacific NW. Heads or Tails.
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Old 12-14-05, 03:57 AM   #4
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So you see my problem. Gota admit though, that it is a good problem. ;-)

If the Kelly had the same reputation as Gunnar, I would not hesitate going the Kelly route. But research on the Internet (if you can call trawling and searching internet forums as research), hints of quality problems with Kelly, at least during certain years. Gunnar OTOH, is stellar. But I want those disc mounts!

Perhaps I will just toss a coin!
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Same problem I had a couple weeks back. I really wanted the Trek XO1 because I am a big fan of Trek, but it doesn't have the disc mounts. I ended up getting the XO1 but now I am kinda rethinking my decision because I really really really want disc brakes!!
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Old 12-14-05, 12:22 PM   #6
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If I were you I'd get the Gunner with a kelly fork and do a mullet: disc in front, canti's in rear.
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Or just toss out both of them, and get a used Airborne Carpe Diem in titanium. ;-)
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you can go custom with gunnar and have disc mounts put on.

i have a kelly knobby-x with ss droputs and i love it.

even though i personally hate discs on anything other than a mtb, i think you would be better off with them for your purposes.
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lala, good idea on the "mullet". but i prefer a more "uniform" style. wierd i know, but even hubs - i need to have them of the exact same make. cannot tolerate (on my own bike) to have a chris king front and a shimano rear for example. which is why i need to have either all cantis, or all discs on my bike. no discussions why please. i already know it is nonsensical.

xccx, if the kelly is good, perhaps i would go kelly then and save the hassle (and more importantly, cost) of going custom on the gunnar. tbh, i was quite worried to read about early kellys with mismatched canti bosses (!!!), and uneven chainstay lengths (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).

discs - i promised myself that other than road and retro bikes, all my future bikes will be disc-i-fied.
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I prefer the taste of Gunnar....




The waterford paint is just unreal. I have two other buds I ride with and both now have Gunnars...I'm so ghetto with my JtS!

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Gunnars are VERY nice. I got a Waterford myself. :-)
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Or.... you could go custom! You can get a Curtlo. http://www.curtlo.com Pretty cheap.... I have one on order.
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I'd go with the Gunnar......I rode one last season and it was a nice ride. But the frame did not fit me right. If it had I would have kept it.
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FYI - I bought the Kelly. Hopefully, I did not make a mistake. Whilst I would have loved to get the Gunnar, the disc brake mounts and rack mounts (frame and fork) on the Kelly were irresistable. For my budget, I was not going to go custom on the Gunnar. I will post a pic when I get it. Thanks all! It was a hard decision, but a fun one. ;-)
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I am torn between the 2 bikes. Assume price is similar and not in the picture. Would you advise me to get the Kelly which has disc mounts ONLY, or a Gunnar Crosshairs which is cantis only?

I am leaning towards a disc frame, but I really like the reputation of Gunnar/Waterford. I have a Waterford and am very confident of their quality. I am fine with either road or mtb components, so the 135mm spacing of the Kelly does not bother me. I would prefer a 1 1/8 headset size though, which the Gunnar has. The Kelly uses a 1" headset. As you can see, I am swinging on a see-saw!

Usage - commuting, touring, general all-rounder. No racing.

I would post this either in the touring or the commuting forum, but I guessed that the Cyclocross forum would be more familiar with these brands?

Many thanks! zzxxyy
ps. I have done searches but am still undecided.
My first Waterford, I still own it, is a RSE-11 with canti brakes. Same sizing as their road bikes. Mine is Campy Veloce/Mirage triple equiped with 700 X 32 tires on Chorus hubs with Mavic OP rims. Campy 9 speed barcons and it is a fabulous go anywhere bike. I vote for the Waterford if you know the quality. I also just finished a 1995 1200 and it fits exactly like the RSE-11.

Tim
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From my personal experience with Gunnar, go with the Crosshairs. Maybe they can put the disc tabs on for you. I test rode several bikes before I decided on the Roadie...one of which was the Crosshairs. The crosshairs is a great ride...really smooth, stable, and a great road feel. Looking back, I should have picked the Crosshairs from a versatility standpoint, instead I went for the dedicated road bike. Regardless, I am plenty happy with my choice.
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